[MD] Distinguishing Levels

[Steve Peterson]

Hi Case
 [Steve]
>
> MOQers postulate along with Pirsig that experience is
> Quality. It is an intellectual postulate that either
> bears fruit or not.

[Case]
Since I seem to have fallen off the wagon today anyway let me say the
Quality is not experience. It is neither this or that. You seem to have
met the Budha on the road. You should kill him.

Steve:
I'm still trying to figure out where you stand on Pirsig's philosophy and why you are participating in this discussion group. Could you explain your position or point me to where you've done so previously? You seem to be taking an unusual position for a member of this group, and it would be helpful if you could let me (us?) know where you are coming from.

To say that Quality is neither this nor that seems okay as far as it goes--not very far in my opinion. Do you not see a need to say anything about Quality? Should we all unsubscribe?

I'm glad to see that you at least find Quality to be a useful metaphor (which is a better way for me to say what a minimum openness to Pirsig's ideas may be).
[Steve]
> So I'm not saying that it is inappropriate to
> criticize the MOQ in this forum. I just think it needs
> to be done based on at least accepting the Quality
> postulate for the sake of argument.

[Case]
Since Quality is undefined, it can only be spoken of metaphorically. It is
like this or like that. I like to think that it is like probabilty. It
could be this or that. Maybe we can estimate the likehood of it being this
or that. Isn't that what the arguement is always about.



Steve:
Can you tell me what you mean by "it is like proability."

What would it mean to say that there is a X% chance that Quality is this or that?



Regards,
Steve

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