[MD] The Individual Level

[Ham Priday]

Steve and Platt --


Platt quotes (Pirsig?):
"Mind is contained in static inorganic patterns. Matter is contained in
static intellectual patterns. Both mind and matter are completely
separate evolutionary levels of static patterns of value, and as such
are capable of each containing the other without contradiction."

Steve responds:
> I wouldn't interpret it to say that a level can contain another level,
> but I can see where you could readit as support for your claim.
> I read it as saying that the mind is thought to be contained in the
> brain which is ultimately a bunch of atoms, and that matter is an idea.
> From an inorganic perspective mind refers to an objective thing,
> and from an intellectual perspective, matter is a subjective idea.

"Inorganic" is scientifically defined as MATTER that is other than plant or
animal, (e.g., metallic or crystalline).  Even an inorganic pattern must be
patterned in some substance.  Are we to infer from this quotation that mind
is a substance?  Or are we redefining "inorganic" to mean non-matter, that
is, nothingness or a vacuum?

And, if matter is contained in "static patterns" -- intellectual or not -- 
why does it move, change, burn, or decay?

Just curious.

--Ham