[MD] Distinguishing Levels

Platt Holden pholden at davtv.com
Sun Jun 11 04:32:48 PDT 2006


> [Arlo previously]
> Wha..? When did I claim this? You're playing with me, aren't you? 
> 
> [Platt]
> Quote from Arlo's post of June 10 8:28AM listed in the MD archive:
> 
> "I can take a picture of a city. In fact, I have several. Pirsig 
> clearly says a "city" is a "social pattern"."
> 
> [Arlo]
> This was said to show how YOUR statement that 'a picture of an ant
> colony proves ants don't belong on the social level' is ridiculous. Why
> on earth you think this is an "A Ha!" moment for you is beyond me.

Because you claimed you can take a picture of a society by taking  a 
picture of a city. Ridiculous. You can't show a social pattern by 
showing a picture of an altar or a judge's bench. Pirsig defines social 
patterns::

"In Lila there is a difference, although I neglected to state it.  
Cells are objective.  Societies are subjective. No objective scientific 
instrument can detect a society."

When your camera produces a photograph of  the subjective, let me know.

Platt

 
 






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