[MD] Bill's Intellectual Level

[Platt Holden]

SA writes:

> Platt and others,
> 
> 
>      Ian said:  "Platt misleadingly stated June 20th: 
> I suspected that honor was in SOLWAQI's individual
> level
> 
>      Platt said:  "Honor is about truth and honesty.
> It's intellectual, as Pirsig makes clear:
> 
> > "Truth is an intellectual pattern of values. Is
> > science unconcerned? A scientist
> > may argue rationally that the moral question, "Is it
> > all right to murder your
> > neighbor?" is not a scientific question. But can he
> > argue that the moral question,
> > "Is it all right to fake your scientific data?" is
> > not a scientific question?
> > Can he say, as a scientist, "The faking of
> > scientific data is no concern of
> > science?"
> 
>      Oh, the great manipulator Platt you strike over
> and over again.  It's the concrete jungle sinking into
> your brain.  You said clearly, but I'm sure you meant
> muddying the waters.
>      Where does Pirsig say truth means honor?  Nowhere
> in your quote does Pirsig point this out.  Read it,
> and you'll see no mention of honor.  You didn't read
> it right?  Surely once you eventually read it you'll
> see that honor is not mentioned in the quote you
> pulled.

Faking data is dishonest. A synonym for honesty is honor. Get it?

>      Platt said:  "You compare Rush to a President of
> the U.S.? Your comparison holds out hope for you after
> all."
> 
>      You are comparing and thinking there's a
> difference in person, yet, we are talking about honor,
> which knows no political boundaries.  Yet, Platt you
> love political boundaries and trace everything with
> rose-colored conservative glasses.
>      Platt do you know what honor means?  Do you see
> honor in Pirsig's books at all?  Even Pirsig said
> Plato said honor is second to truth, and thus, to
> Pirsig honor is definitely different than truth.  This
> was the comparison Pirsig gives between truth and
> honor.  Yet, your Platt and have your own philosophy
> called SOLWAQI's individual level.  Interpretation is
> one thing, yet, redefining something to fit your
> philosophy is to finally take credit that you came up
> with your own personal philosophy.  This necessarily
> doesn't have to be bad.  It's yours, honor it and
> bring virtue to yourself.

Please reference the quote were Pirsig said "Plato said honor is second 
to truth" and where Pirsig said he agreed with Plato.

Thanks,
Platt