[MD] Bill's Intellectual Level
David Harding
davidharding at optusnet.com.au
Wed Jun 21 20:35:15 PDT 2006
Heather Perella wrote:
> Platt and others,
>
>
> Ian said: "Platt misleadingly stated June 20th:
> I suspected that honor was in SOLWAQI's individual
> level
>
> Platt said: "Honor is about truth and honesty.
> It's intellectual, as Pirsig makes clear:
>
>
>> "Truth is an intellectual pattern of values. Is
>> science unconcerned? A scientist
>> may argue rationally that the moral question, "Is it
>> all right to murder your
>> neighbor?" is not a scientific question. But can he
>> argue that the moral question,
>> "Is it all right to fake your scientific data?" is
>> not a scientific question?
>> Can he say, as a scientist, "The faking of
>> scientific data is no concern of
>> science?"
>>
>
> Oh, the great manipulator Platt you strike over
> and over again. It's the concrete jungle sinking into
> your brain. You said clearly, but I'm sure you meant
> muddying the waters.
> Where does Pirsig say truth means honor? Nowhere
> in your quote does Pirsig point this out. Read it,
> and you'll see no mention of honor. You didn't read
> it right? Surely once you eventually read it you'll
> see that honor is not mentioned in the quote you
> pulled.
>
> Platt said: "You compare Rush to a President of
> the U.S.? Your comparison holds out hope for you after
> all."
>
> You are comparing and thinking there's a
> difference in person, yet, we are talking about honor,
> which knows no political boundaries. Yet, Platt you
> love political boundaries and trace everything with
> rose-colored conservative glasses.
> Platt do you know what honor means? Do you see
> honor in Pirsig's books at all? Even Pirsig said
> Plato said honor is second to truth, and thus, to
> Pirsig honor is definitely different than truth. This
> was the comparison Pirsig gives between truth and
> honor. Yet, your Platt and have your own philosophy
> called SOLWAQI's individual level. Interpretation is
> one thing, yet, redefining something to fit your
> philosophy is to finally take credit that you came up
> with your own personal philosophy. This necessarily
> doesn't have to be bad. It's yours, honor it and
> bring virtue to yourself.
>
>
> Thanks,
> SA
What an amazing post!
I agree SA,
Honor is a social level word. Truth, well we all know what level that is on.
Cheers,
-David
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