[MD] Platt's Individual Level

[Heather Perella]

Hello David,
 
> >>      Platt said:  "There is no way to separate
> ideas
> >> from individuals. As you pointed out, even Lila
> >> although she's intellectually nowhere, has
> ideas."
> >>
> >>      There's no way to separate the chaotic level
> >>     
> > from
> >   
> >> the individual either.  Also, Hitler was an
> >> individual.  
> >>     
> >
> >      Platt said:  "I don't remember Pirsig
> identifying
> > a chaotic level. Is that something you've added to
> the
> > MOQ? Also,about Hitler. What's your point?"
> >
     SA said:  "Somewhere I was introduced to this
chaotic
> level.
> >  I looked in Lila, and saw nothing of it.  Thank
> you
> > for pointing this out to me.  This is what happens
> > when I begin to change a philosophy without
> realizing
> > it."  
> >   
> 
     David said:  "No you haven't changed it. From
Lila page 183:
> 
> "In the MOQ there's the morality called the "laws of
> nature", by which 
> inorganic patterns triumph over chaos."
> 
>  From Lilas Child:
> 
> "Dynamic Quality and chaos are both patternless, and
> so it
> would seem they have a lot in common, particularly
> the
> fact that you can’t say anything about them without
> getting
> into static patterns. But if you do, you can say
> that
> Dynamic Quality is good and precedes static
> improvement.
> It is the source of experience. Chaos, by contrast
> is the
> condition of total destruction. You can’t call it
> either good
> or bad. It is not the source of anything."

     Thank you David.  Cheers!!!  I guess I did
remember that correctly.

     SA said:  "As to Hilter, well, he is an
individual so he
> > fits on the individual level.  He staged a new
> society
> > of pure race, yet, this individual emphasized a
> > celebrity establishment, an archetypal personality
> > that a whole society was to follow.  The dismissal
> of
> > the Dharmakaya light, which peers beyond the
> culture
> > of one or many."

     David said:  "You've noticed the Dharmakaya
light?"

     I had some sarcasm above, because I don't get the
individual level, which would include all levels and
it might as well be called quality.  Have I noticed
Dharmakaya light?  I am inclined to say yes.  The many
occasions that I have been in the woods have cracked
my cultural view where I notice myself and everything
else to be sitting with all answers, all questions,
and yet when I go to open my mouth, I can't repeat
what is here or here would be coming out of my mouth,
and that's impossible.

SA

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