[MD] Platt's Individual Level

[Platt Holden]

SA:
 
>      Platt said:  "Please cite one idea resulting from
> brainstorming that attains the significance of ideas
> of Galileo, Newton, Faraday, Ampere, Helmholtz, Hertz,
> Curie, Plank, Eintein and a thousand and one other
> individuals who are credited with achieiving great
> things in the arts and sciences."
> 
>      Platt, either you just want Gene to come up with
> an idea about this, or your avoiding me.  I've already
> said, E=mc2 and how Einstein relates to this equation.
>  Somebody came up with what energy is, another person
> came up with =, mass and all related concepts
> providing the idea of mass and what mass is, etc...
> (just like all relations leading up to all other
> symbols in this equation), the speed of light was
> figured out by somebody and squared was, too.  
>      Then you have Einstein in a scientific culture
> full of a society of people, even a society within a
> society called the scientific community.  They are
> able to think about this kind of stuff, and Einstein
> puts all the pieces together that other people came up
> with and he puts another piece in the puzzle.  The
> puzzle is not done.  We have quantum physics,
> M-theory, string theory, and Einsteins theories.  How
> do they fit into the puzzle?  Science lives on,
> thanks, to Einsteins contribution.  Contribution,
> that's it, many contribute and out comes some answers,
> just like the moq.org.  

All this has nothing to do with brainstorming which depends on a group
coming together concurrently to toss around ideas. For a good 
discussion of what brainstorming is all about, look it up on Wikipedia.

>      Platt said:  "As for our history being full of
> horrors, they pale in comparison to the horrors
> perpetrated by nazism, fascism, Muslim fundamentalism
> and communism -- especially communism."
> 
>      Careful, Platt, don't think too fast.  Remember
> the U.S. took over a whole Continent, almost.  The
> U.S. started many wars, even before becoming the
> United States of America. 

How could the U.S. start wars before becoming the U.S.?

> War is in the culture. 
> Every generation of the U.S. has been involved in a
> war.  Wars by the U.S. start because the U.S. either
> wants land (Manifest Destiny), more $ (more land leads
> to more $, gold, oil, coal, etc...), and wars have
> been fought in the ideological realm (against Nazis,
> Islamic fundamentalist, etc...).  Just don't forget
> how this country has been founded and who's land it
> has been built upon.

Whose land was it built upon? Indians claimed no ownership. And who 
owned the land before the Indians?.

> Don't remember those people
> still live here in their captivity (reservations)
> manhandled by the U.S. gov't dictating how they are to
> live where their forefathers decided, they have lost
> their freedom.  The call for freedom, could it not
> start here?  Have you forgotten about this bloody past
> and present?  Has it been swept under the carpet, yet,
> remember they still live here!  This is one reason why
> freedom is defined by the U.S. to be for U.S. interest
> and polices, capitalism, consumerism, as long as
> McDonalds sells those burgers it's considered freedom.
>  Then you have Tibet, African countries, and
> Amerindians.  The U.S. has no interest, especially in
> the latters freedom where the U.S. directly erases,
> disposes of, dictates as a dictator, and has raped. 
> Freedom is just a call for those that want what they
> want.  Freedom can be used by anybody for a call to
> arms.  Hitler wanted freedom.  He thought the best way
> out of war and poverty was to have a pure race, free
> from all confusion.  Freedom can be twisted into any
> ideology.  Obviously, Hitler, that individual level
> man, had to go.  It's just I'm not understanding why
> you said what you said Platt.  Did you forget?

If you want to feel guilty about something you had nothing to do with, 
be my guest. And if you don't see a difference between the freedom we 
enjoy as citizens of the U.S. and the freedom of those living under 
Hitler's regime, then there's no point in further discussion.

Platt




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