[MD] Platt's Individual Level

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Quoting Case <case at ispots.com>:

> [Case]
> I had never heard of Ward Churchill before but, my god man, I give you
> figures of such wide range and covering such a long period of time, that I
> thought it was a total pass on the subject and still you want to quibble
> numbers?

Jus asking for your source(s). I guess that's asking too much.

> [Platt quoting Pirsig]
> "Primitive tribes such as the American Indians have no record of sweetness
> and cooperation with other tribes. They ambushed them, tortured them,
> dashed their children's brains out on rocks." Pirsig
> 
> Over the past year while I have seldom agreed with you I have at least
> respected your passion and eloquence. But for you to claim to have read
> Pirsig and to put this forth as a summary of his position on Indians is
> nothing short of pathetic.

Relax. Nobody claimed this was a summary of Pirsig's position on Indians.
However, unlike those who present Indians as peace-loving hippies who
wouldn't harm a fly, Pirsig, being a fair and balanced reporter, shows 
their dark, savage side.  

> There was a recent discussion on synonyms and the various nuances similar
> words carry. Shame is quite different than guilt. Shame is a feeling of
> sadness tinged with empathy and remorse. The deepest source of shame for
> me is that anyone could take the kind of bald faced self righteous
> ignorant position your comments imply. I am ashamed because at some deep
> level I know that, had fate twisted a bit differently, my own skull has
> the potential to contain such thoughts. I am shamed because I can look at
> the things my people have done and what my fellow citizens advocate today
> and see that we a doomed to commit these same atrocities over and over
> again. Whether we do it in the name of communism, fascism, Islam, Christ,
> tribal faction or to spread “liberty” matters not a whit.
> 
> I do not WANT to feel ashamed but in this case you have compelled me to it.

Seems you are ashamed for being part of the human race. I'm sorry you feel
that way. It must be a terrible burden.

Platt



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