[MD] Emergent Consciousness

[ian glendinning]

Desperately clinging to Rand.

I like the post Arlo - it would be great if Ham and other Randians at
least got the point, whether they agree or not.

Objectivity has the illusion of a solid foundation that is just so
attractive to the "conservative" mind. A big reason why everyone
should be forced occasionally to dive outside their comfort zone, and
see if they can actually float.

Life / reality actually has a "ballistic" trajectory, but if you cling
to a rock, you never experience it (or understand the point.)

It's just dynamic vs static again.

Ian

On 6/30/06, Arlo J. Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:
> [Ham]
> Actually, there was no 'I' in Einstein's statement, and the only reference
> that could be considered sociological was his plea for "...widening our circle
> of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its
> beauty."
>
> [Arlo]
> Arlo responded to this before. The "optical delusion", as I had said, is the
> separateness of "the universe" from "he" (since you want to insist Einstein did
> not use the word 'I'). Of this delusion, Einstein writes, "This delusion is a
> kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires." No wonder the
> adherents of S/O dualism so desperately cling to Rand.
>
> [Ham]
> But Arlo persists in misconstruing awareness as behavior.  Whether this is
> purposeful or in deference to the MoQ heirarchy, I'm not sure, but it is
> annoying.
>
> [Arlo]
> Annoying? Why? Because I don't need a masturbatory little "I" fantasy to escape
> from the scary, evil boogeyman of moral relativism? Whether this is out of some
> psychological shortcoming of Ham's or in typical neocon "people need myths"
> ideology, I'm not sure, but it is "annoying" when you try to convince others
> they NEED your little fantasy "I" as well. What? Misery loves company? It's
> lonely in that "prison" and you want a few more inmates?
>
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