[MD] God is dead.

[Peter Corteen]

Hi Joseph, thanks for your post.

"God" is alive in the minds of many people (but not mine) and is
consequently still very powerful; he exists but he doesn't exist !
Science, based on logic, has given us so much now that the need for "God" is
diminishing.
Going back to the early days when people first began to think it seems to me
that  "God"  arose then as a conclusion from the awesomeness of nature and
became a force for social cohesion, personifying quality and reflecting the
apparent mystery of human self-awareness.

It has taken me many years to see through my own conditioning;  I was not an
alter boy but still used to go to mass alone from about age 9 through 11,
then went to a secondary school run by Catholic brothers. I began to think
of myself as agnostic in early adulthood but later became involved with the
Gurdjieff cult, a very subversive form of spiritual facism; breaking free
from them was very painful. About 18 months ago at my workplace I became
friends with a very religious Nigerian man and through our many discussions
realised I had progressed to atheism (I still haven't convinced him though).
More recently still, through reading Dawkins, I went a step further and
threw out the idea of anything supernatural too.

Regards

Peter



On 26/02/06, Joseph Bromley <bharhumbug at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> Nietzsche declared "God is dead" back in the nineteen hundreds, an idea
> which has been slow to catch on and very often misunderstood.
>
> With intellectual ideas such as evolution and gravity coming to the fore
> in
> mans understanding of life they ate away at the properties of God. God was
> no longer all, the law of nature slowly but surely became great and more
> tangible to man than God. God as little place inintellectual reasoning,
> for
> the source of all is beyond logical reasoning.
> Belief was still strong in god even amongst the scientists until the
> killing
> fields of the first world war, then men began to question, can there
> really
> be a god? By the end of the second world war man was beginning to play
> god.
> The next step is for man to will his own evolution and prove himself a god
> by creating something greater out of himself then he himself is.
> None of the europeans who I concider to have scaled the heights since
> Nietzsche, such as Pirsig and Eckhart Tolle, Sid Barret have used the word
> God, godhead yes but not God. Before Nietzsche I can find on examples of
> those who had scaled the heights. The Asians and South Americans seem to
> have always been able to and still can, produce such types of men, this
> appears a new development for European blood, many of whom appear to go
> mad,
> or are at least labeled as such.
>
> Poems of a Preist.
>
> God.
> He who.
> Created everything.
> Out of himself.
> So that everything.
> That was, is,
> And will be,
> Is Himself.
> A God without form,
> Yet is all form.
> A God who creates,
> And destroys.
> Who brings life,
> And death.
> Of light,
> And Darkness.
> All health,
> And Illness.
> All knowledge,
> And all ignorance.
> A God of Good.
> And Evil.
>
> If such a God where dead,
> We would not be here.
>
> As the human body is,
> To one of its cells.
> So such a God is to man.
>
> How could the human mind,
> Grasp and understand,
> The totality of existence?
> As such, what use is,
> The concept God?
>
> The image of a Good, God.
> A redundant tool of social evolution.
> As a idea refutes the daily world.
> We see every day, life is Immoral.
>
> The Christian half diety,
> No longer deserves our piety.
> We know too much.
> Yet understand so little.
>
> If the christian god created the devil, where did the evil in the devil
> come
> from, if not from god?
> If god did not create evil, then god is not the creator of all!
>
> Dark Humour.
> News from earth came to the devil, that god had been pronounced dead. At
> first the devil felt that a burden had been lifted from him, his spirit
> soured before becoming lost. He then missed god and started to cry, who
> was
> there now to bring balance to life?
> Then an idea started to rumble deep inside of him, it rumbled and rumbled
> until the devil proclaimed to hell. "I shall go to earth and either
> discover
> that god still exists or take his place."
> Chorus in Hell. "God is dead, long live God."
>
> Regards Joseph Bromley.
>
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