[MD] Unreality of Equality

[Joseph Bromley]

Salut all.


Arlo
>You evidence quite articulately the notion of social Darwinism, where the 
>value
>of the individual is gleened from the social success of the individual. The
>poor are, to you, in line with typical right-wing thinking; lazy, stupid,
>worthless. As I said last night, the underlying notion is "let them die".

I would argue the points of human rights from an MOQ/Nietzsche perspective 
and historical/cultural view. All noble cultures have a class system, all 
noble cultures have the highest quality intellect.

Biological rights for those who operate pedominantly on the biological 
level.
Social rights for those who operate pedominanly on the social level.
Intellectual rights for those who operate on the intellectual level.

Those above have the rights of those below and there own.
Those below do not have the rights of those above.

ie Intellectual freedom of speach for intellectual speach, not freedom of 
speech for those like Abu Hamza, who spoke for terrorist attacks to be made 
on Britain whilst claiming state benefit. Biological drives couched in 
social/religious rhetoric.

This is an over simplification. To have this in operation people would have 
to have order of rank as an active instinct, if this where the case I would 
not need to make this point.






>Second, let me also step back and say that "inequality of skill" is an
>undeniable good, as I said last night. No one I know denies this. We are 
>all in
>possession of a variety of skill, manifest through cultural doors that (in 
>our
>society) socio-economic birthrite largely determines. What I am primarily 
>vocal
>against is the "inequality of value", or that the life of one person is 
>somehow
>"more valuable" than the life of another. And let's not mince words, in
>mercantilian, right-wing thinking, that "value" is derived nearly 
>exclusively
>through the attainment of wealth.

JCB
An obsession with wealth is not healthy, such people become consumed by 
their possessions. They get caught up in a viscious cycle of accumulation 
and the means to, they are in fact caught in the biological drive of greed.


Arlo
>That is, when you talk about "inequality", I am with you throughout the 
>various
>manifestations of skill that spread across the human condition, but I am 
>NOT
>with you when you lapse into proclaiming the value of one person's life is
>superior to that of another's. ESPECIALLY when that value is derived from
>socio-economic success.

JCB
People who spend most of there time at the biological are less evolved than 
those that spend ost of there time on the social, and they less evolved than 
those who operate mostly on the intellectual. Hence not equal. Few can spot 
this, few make it a question of value? The goal of such observations is to 
eliminate within yourself that which is less evolved, if not you are 
perpetuating the cycle. Herein lies the criteria for what is good and bad 
quality.

>[Ham wrote]
>The truth is, we can't have both.  We can't advance intellectually and
>technologically as the world's most powerful nation by going into 
>bankruptcy to
>support the myth that everyone should have equal status.

JCB
Bingo!

Regards Joseph Bromley.

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