[MD] Unreality of Equality

[Heather Perella]

Arlo, Khaled, Platt, Ham, and others,

     Arlo said:  ""Social Darwinism" may make the
successful feel even better about their supremeity,
and greater value, but it will ultimately be
destuctive. The reason the 1920's came was that the
majority of people were tired of suffering under the
weight of the "elite". Khaled has pointed out many
times that social Darwinism is only a precursor for
revolution, because class stratification has very
little to do with "skill", and sooner or later those
"lazy, stupid poor" are gonna get fed up."

     According to this line of thinking a connection
is made with "feel even better about their supremeity,
and greater value" which now adds another link to this
discussion as follows:  The wealthy are feeling their
freedom in a controlled setting via a consumer culture
in which people are buying thus supporting what the
wealthy believe must be the greater value in the
world, which provides more motivation for the
wealthy's power/'king of the hill' behavior.   This is
a feedback system.  I say the value is in human life,
thus, family, universe participation (woods, fishing,
etc...), quality time, not the feedback loop of $.

     Platt said:  "No surprise that I like Pirsig's
view of duty which is not arbitrarily imposed by
others (hello government bureaucrat) and not subject
to legislation (hello do-gooder congressman)."

     Quality Point!

     Khaled said:  "So here are 2 questions to the
collective.

1. Do you folks think that we learned these lessons,
or do you feel that
as soon as the government oversight, EPA, FDA, USDA
are gone, we will go back to the same routine.

2. Lets say the FDA is gone, and some pharmaceutical
Company is selling something bad, does the mass
consumer market has enough intellect to realize the
problem and let the public know about it through the
Internet and other means? I mean if we all woke up
tomorrow and said "I want my milk without any growth
hormone in it, I wont buy it." Will every stick not
buy it forcing a change in the market or stupid is as
stupid does.

     As to #1, who teaches the earth and sky,
according to some people that's just tribal and not
fit for an advanced culture.  As to FDA, USDA I don't
even know all of their regulations and it seems to
take a whole department of people to understand it,
and I'm sure they have to deter some person from
'cheating' the public.  We need quality intellect, the
wisdom that guides a society to regulate itself,
because as of now $ motivates a wealthy class to keep
their freedom to control how we shall consume to
feedback into the whole system again.
     As to #2, stupid as stupid does only implies to
the thought driving the behaviors of the current
society, which applies to the culture willing the
behaviors of the society.  In other words we are
questioning the intellect of the current culture that
needs somebody to tell it what to do or else the mass
culture blindly moves about.  The feedback system of
this culture keeps this culture blind as a baby who
needs somebody to think and direct for it.  The FDA,
USDA, and EPA are a need in the beginning, but become
a crutch after awhile that people depend upon and
these institutions become the habits of the culture. 
With all of these habits, where is the conscious
thought (intellect) still capable of walking on its'
own, deciding where to go on its' own.  Is there that
much habit that intellect is dim.  By this I mean, is
there such a high static quality, that the dynamic
quality of this culture is being dammed up?

     Arlo said:  "But, at the core of it all, is the
DQ-enabledness of man that creates and sustains his
true "value", and this "value" is no greater in you
than it is me.  We may live up to different
realizations of this potential, but it is the
potential from which value derives, not social wealth,
or social success, or even Intellectual ability.
History may retroactively label the "contrarians" as
the "more valuable", but that is not something that we
can do."

     Yes, this probably why such cultures as the
Lakotas honored contrary individuals.  The person who
rode their horse backwards or dressed like a female
(yet biologically a male).  Dressing as a female did
not mean they liked other males.  They just did things
backwards and the rest of the culture saw that as a
powerful individual.  The Iroquois looked up to
genetically deformed individuals as the Israelites
did.  Something special about their difference in
these cultures.  Many times these people became the
shamans and wise elders of the culture for their
'crazy' psychological break from what to the rest of
the culture seemed a bit odd, even insane.  I
definitely saw quite a bit myself in the years I
didn't work and only gardening, camped, and the
quality time in the woods (which provides an
experience that is felt after a lot of time is spent
in the woods over days and nights.  This experience
subtlety changes a person naturally, and upon return
to this U.S. culture, as I mentioned over a month ago,
it feels as if I became a circle trying to fit back
into a square cut-out.).  I sense I am noticing and
writing on the MOQ as others who are able to free
their minds from habit and it is just taking the
quality time to use this free forum, some intellect,
support or debate from others, and again that pursuit
of Quality (Excellence).
 

SA

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