[MD] Ham & swiss cheese

[David M]

Dan

If we democratically wanted to reduce the quest
for economic growth could we? Would negative
growth be possible with the current system?
As it is we need to keep producing and consuming
more and more to keep the thing going. I have
chosen to earn less to work less to have more 
quality time, an individual choice but if we all
did this the economy would lose confidence I
suspect.

DM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Ham & swiss cheese


> Dan,
> 
>     Dan said:  "You can have that now, if you want
> it. You have to want it though. If you do not have
> quality time with your family, etc., it is on account
> of your own actions, my friend. No one elses. No
> excuses allowed."
> 
>     Yeah, maybe your right.  At this moment in my
> life, my job does not allow for the quality time to
> have with my wife.  I work a lot of nights, tonight is
> an exception more than the rule.  I could get another
> job after being in school to get this one, which I
> went back to school after having schooling to be a
> Massage Therapist for 5 years.  I've worked in many
> areas in this culture.  In a movie theater, grocery
> store, fast food restaurant, specialty food store,
> plant nursery, restaurant, catering facility, spa,
> chiropractic office,  telemarketer, volunteer as a
> park ranger for 6 months, had some poems published,
> and now in a troubled youth residential community.  I
> really don't mind the job I have now, except for the
> hours.  My wife works during the day, I at night
> mostly.  She has weekends off, I rarely do (twice in
> six months).  She is a substitute teacher, and if she
> gets a permanent teaching job, well, IF, then
> economically we would be more comfortable.  Maybe I
> should go back to school, find another job, or just
> face it.  This culture doesn't have many options for
> intellectually motivated person who thinks about where
> he works and wants to use his mind more freely and not
> get trapped in so much habitual work, which this job
> now relys on ones' own wits and spontaneity in dealing
> with social and intellectual jams.  It's just the
> hours that's all.  No excuses, just a need for more
> quality time with the more valuable part of my life,
> which is not the work to buy aspect of my life.  The
> time I do spend with my wife and outside of work has
> high quality, just overall not enough of it exists,
> but maybe all this time I've been having a hard time
> finding what fits me in this culture is my discontent
> with this culture.  Is it me or the culture?  Well, I
> am very content in the woods, with my family, with
> friends, even at work with other people, I do not
> anger, stay calm, feel peace and contentment for the
> most part, all except those hours.  Well, everything
> can't go your way, but I could desire more control
> with something that seems to take up much of my life -
> those hours and choices as to what I could do to buy
> things since the population is so high and I can't
> have the quality time to cultivate an option of living
> more self-sufficiently in how I seem to find my
> comfort and contentment, but I guess I should just
> suck it up and just live with what I have in this
> culture and not try to do what seems to come more
> natural for me.  I should let other people have more
> of a say in my life, maybe, or maybe I should take
> responsibility for who I am and that is SA.  Should SA
> change for others or Should SA be SA as long as SA
> just wants what is more valuable to exist in SA's life
> more often than what seems to be a system of problems,
> where problems exist, as evident with the girls caught
> in a system that deems them deviant to society and
> angry possibly the future criminals of this society
> due to their collective rage and unintelligible
> actions?  How many other unintelligible actions exist
> in this society in which we are dragged into in order
> to provide the clarity that is becoming dim?  How many
> people just blindly do and the rest are aware of the
> doing that needs stopped?
> 
> SA 
> 
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