[MD] Ham & swiss cheese

[Heather Perella]

Dan Glover,

     How do you know everybody can be materially rich?
 When I think materially rich I think of what the
richest person has and does, and he certainly does not
clean up after himself.  So don't we need people to
clean hotel rooms, houses, garbage, etc...  Yet, in
this culture will they get as much money as the person
we signs their paychecks and also rents apartments
over here for those people to live in, which he/she
gets that money back to play the stock market and
build a whole chain of fast food restaurants, just to
diversify, and on and on.  Your not making logical
sense.  Rich people need poor people to buy their
products or else if everybody was rich we could make
our own products and wouldn't have to buy them from
somebody else.  I know these are simple notions I am
getting, but come on now, not everybody  can leave
behind the duties of being a butler, waiter, garbage
person, or working where I work, and still expect to
be as rich materially as say Bill Gates.  All of those
things need to be done, this culture is systematized
to have these job positions, they are here aren't
they?  There will be poor and rich in this culture
except it, or do you question this static pattern and
think it could change?  

     By the way I guess compassionate support is
something I expect from others too much and should not
think it has to come from others.  You think I would
have learn that by now from my job at least.  These
girls will make a lot seem like life or death and
argue or seem to hold on to every bit of what
manipulation they can achieve at times, but I should
motivate my own understanding and if somebody wants to
give a cold heart so be it.  I am a social creature
and relationships, supportive ones, are valuable to
me, but I know when somebody doesn't want to be
friendly and helpful to somebody.  I know if somebody
thinks they know much more about something they might
get to the point where they want to just say "your
just dumb" (you imply this) or "quit your whining"
(you implied if not were explicit about this) etc...
and I guess their patience is short, their calmness is
lacking, and thus, their frustration is high - so my
question to you is - What is bothering you so much? 
Are you making (or faking) your life to be very rosy? 
Sorry to ask these questions you don't have to answer
if you don't want to, but I just wanted you to know
you come off this way to people.  I am surviving and
don't think you need to toughen me up or something.  I
have faced a black bear, had a cougar to my back, and
caught in storms and walking situations while
backpacking that strengthen the spirit and bring out
the wits all on their own.  Yet, this culture is no
bear, sometimes I think it is a much larger monster at
that, and I survive.  I guess I am done talking about
$.  You are right about that.  I don't need to focus
that much on things I don't value as much, sometimes I
just feel like sharing something, but I guess you are
not a listener.  If you could just please clarify some
of these questions throughout this posting if you
still want to discuss.  

     What is the difference between rich and wealthy
that you talk about?  I didn't know we were talking
about two things here.
     
     What is the difference between zazen and
meditation to you?  To me they are the same.  Why do
you attach problems with meditation?  You don't have
to *think* when you are experience a problem while you
are sitting you are now meditating, and when you are
not having a problem you do not have to start
*thinking* you are now zazen. (I put the * just to
emphasize where the change is taking place in your
experience)       

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