[MD] False Messiah

[david buchanan]

Ant, Marsha and all MOQers:

Marsha said:
...I don't believe we need another hero, or a journey for that matter.  
Because:

Yes, I know from where I came
Ever hungry like a flame,
I consume myself and glow.

Light grows all that I conceive,
Ashes everything I leave:
Flame I am assuredly.

(Homo Ecco, Nietzsche)

Anthony asked Marsha:
Isn't this type of poem usually written by someone after they have travelled 
the journey of personal development that Dave was discussing?

dmb says:
Not sure I understand the point, Marsha. How is it that these lines from 
Nietzsche work as a reason for your denial? As Ant seems to be saying here, 
don't these lines describe the perspective of a person who has stopped 
worshipping heros and become one instead? This is definately one of the 
points I was trying to make, that political and religious leaders usurp our 
engeries and powers to ill effect. I don't think we need another hero 
either. I think we need to be heros. I'm thinking this is not entirely 
unrelated to the idea of a Superman in Nietzsche's work. You know, in your 
own heart and head and hands, etc.. I was trying to say that the messiah 
outside yourself is a false one, that the hero is NOT to be worshiped, but 
lived. So anyway, I think we actually agree about that, but you tell me.

But saying we don't need another journey? The journey I'm talking about here 
is your life. As I understand it, journeys are like opinions. Everybody has 
one. If you're still breathing, you're on a journey. The main issue then 
becomes the quality of that journey. Are you drifting along, following 
whoever's in front of you, stuck in the doldrums, driving that boat into the 
rocks? Cause the real motorcycle you're working on is yourself, etc..

Happy trails to you,
until we meet again.
Happy trails to you.

dmb

P.S. I had no idea that Nietzsche was a flamer or that he came out of the 
clothset so boldly. His courage is impressive. I suppose it also explains 
why he spent so much time with his sister.

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