[MD] False Messiah

[MarshaV]

DMB,

Okay, I'll revise.  I don't think there is a need for the "hero's 
journey".  That's macho baloney.  There is only the journey, one 
moment at a time, now, now, now, now, now, now........

I haven't the faintest idea what a flamer is.

Marsha




At 01:39 PM 3/19/2006, you wrote:
>Ant, Marsha and all MOQers:
>
>Marsha said:
>...I don't believe we need another hero, or a journey for that matter.
>Because:
>
>Yes, I know from where I came
>Ever hungry like a flame,
>I consume myself and glow.
>
>Light grows all that I conceive,
>Ashes everything I leave:
>Flame I am assuredly.
>
>(Homo Ecco, Nietzsche)
>
>Anthony asked Marsha:
>Isn't this type of poem usually written by someone after they have travelled
>the journey of personal development that Dave was discussing?
>
>dmb says:
>Not sure I understand the point, Marsha. How is it that these lines from
>Nietzsche work as a reason for your denial? As Ant seems to be saying here,
>don't these lines describe the perspective of a person who has stopped
>worshipping heros and become one instead? This is definately one of the
>points I was trying to make, that political and religious leaders usurp our
>engeries and powers to ill effect. I don't think we need another hero
>either. I think we need to be heros. I'm thinking this is not entirely
>unrelated to the idea of a Superman in Nietzsche's work. You know, in your
>own heart and head and hands, etc.. I was trying to say that the messiah
>outside yourself is a false one, that the hero is NOT to be worshiped, but
>lived. So anyway, I think we actually agree about that, but you tell me.
>
>But saying we don't need another journey? The journey I'm talking about here
>is your life. As I understand it, journeys are like opinions. Everybody has
>one. If you're still breathing, you're on a journey. The main issue then
>becomes the quality of that journey. Are you drifting along, following
>whoever's in front of you, stuck in the doldrums, driving that boat into the
>rocks? Cause the real motorcycle you're working on is yourself, etc..
>
>Happy trails to you,
>until we meet again.
>Happy trails to you.
>
>dmb
>
>P.S. I had no idea that Nietzsche was a flamer or that he came out of the
>clothset so boldly. His courage is impressive. I suppose it also explains
>why he spent so much time with his sister.
>
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