[MD] False Messiah

[Scott Roberts]

SA,

SA said:
     Are you saying the world is non-spatiotemporal
without reason (consciousness and value; the latter
two according to what you are saying are the same as
reason)?

Scott:
I'm afraid I don't follow this question. What do you mean by 
"non-spatiotemporal without reason"? I'm just saying that sense perception 
turns the non-spatiotemporal (the quantum) into the spatiotemporal (the 
world we see, hear, touch, taste and smell).

SA said:
     Thus, if you are saying yes to the above
question, then you are saying perception is tied to
how we view the world, thus, our values placed by
perception will be found in photons, neutrons, etc...,
and this is how value is found in these latter (which
these latter [photons and such] usually thought of
strictly absent of moral and value pieces of the world
would actually have morals and values due to our
reasoning tied with these particles?

Scott:
How can we "find value" in photons and such if they are not perceived? Of 
course, the theory of photons and such is a valuable theory, but I assume 
that is not what you are talking about. Again, I don't understand you.

     Scott said:  "My claim is that sense perception
creates reality in this dimensional structure, so
consciousness is not itself a dimension but the
creator of dimensional structure. A photon is a
physicist's construct to help explain the behavior of
light in this dimensional structure, so it is not a
dimension either."

SA said:
     If what I said above is correct, then your above
statement sums up your voice on this understanding.
As long as I am understanding what you are saying
correctly?

Scott:
Since I don't understand what you said, I have no idea whether you are 
understanding what I said.

- Scott