[MD] False Messiah

[beauteak4u at aol.com]

SA:
     I saw the movie 'V for Vendetta' this afternoon. 
One thing struck me about what a character in the
movie said about the hero.  The final event occurred
and then some other people had something to say or
their moments of doing.  She, though, said that she
would remember the man that started this all.  The man
that lead 'the event' (I am trying to not give away
the movie for those that wish to see it, but it is
obviously hard not to give some things away about
it.).  The whole time 'this man' wore a mask. 
Everybody wanted to see this man behind the mask.  He
said it is not the face or body behind this mask that
is important.  It is the idea.  The idea was seen
everywhere in bits in pieces.  Little kids to adults
all in their own way influencing each other in ways
they may not have realized it, but influence they did
until certain actions from these ideas popped up here
and over there.  This man was a hero, and was a major
character for this 'idea' motivating the 'events'
taking place until the climatic event.  Yet, here is
where I think something could go morally wrong.  She
wanted to remember the man.  The same man that said it
was not him, but it was the idea to contemplate and
take action with.  Yet, she literalized the idea into
one man.  That is morally wrong, because it cannot
happen.  The idea cannot be trapped in one man.  If,
social is a higher level than biological, and
intellect is higher than both, then this idea born of
intellect, spread into society, actualized in the
actions of biological beings, intellect (an idea) is
then something more than not just one man, it is even
more than many humans (society), an idea goes far
beyond any biological system and social activity of
many people.  Yet, she trapped the idea in one man,
against his understanding of where and what the idea
was.  She perverted the idea into one literal,
seemingly in her eyes maybe, separate cause of all
other events into this delineated person.  To remember
this one human and converge the idea into this one
human, and to be later, through history, become an
idea only linked with this one human being - now that
is perverted, morally wrong, and also a problem that
people in the future (using foresight) would find
themselves arguing over.  An idea is much more than
even a society of people, so how could it be
consolidated into one person. 
     This is what perverts budda, christ, and others
who lived the Way, walked listening to dharma, and
tried to express something, they themselves knew, was
much more than they themselves as individuals.
     So who is the Pope of MOQ?  I hope us all and
more.  I hope that is something we identify with as
where quality exists, too.  If we trap it any one
place, and yet, other places exist, yet, no quality is
found or trapped out of those places, then morally
something went wrong. " 


i went to see this movie after your "review" <s> stoked my curiosity.
It's worth another viewing or two in my opinion. There seemed to be more layers to this movie
than the title might suggest. 
SA said: "Yet, here is
where I think something could go morally wrong.  She
wanted to remember the man.  The same man that said it
was not him, but it was the idea to contemplate and
take action with.  Yet, she literalized the idea into
one man. 
Smith: i'm not so sure she wanted to "remember the man" for the reason you're suggesting or at least
i think you're suggesting. And if even if she did i think there was once again other reasons that
may not be so obvious.
Evey Hammond: Who are you? 
V: "Who?" "Who" is but the form following the function of "what", and *what* I am is a man in a mask. 
Evey Hammond: Well I can see that! 
V: Of course you can. I'm not questioning your powers of observation,
 I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is.