[MD] False Messiah

[David M]

Marsha

Christian thinking has been used by authoritarians
and manipulators, but we cannot afford to sacrifice
anything to these people, we need to fight them
in their own staked out territory. Elitist? Would
that be me or those who do not think we all
deserve quality thinking? Dogma is SQ
dominating DQ, and you and I know we
need both in balance. I think religion will
always be with us but may not be for
everyone, the challenge is to improve
it. By the way this is a point of principle, I am
not a Christian myself although brought up in
the UK, a very secular up bringing in fact.


DM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MarshaV" <marshalz at charter.net>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] False Messiah


>
> DM,
>
> Defending religion by the fact that there are a few pro-intellect
> theologians doesn't really account for much.  I read the two books
> you recommended 'Life, Life' and 'The Religion of Being', by Don
> Cupitt.  Actually, I thought they were both great, but I can't
> imagine how Cupitt can call himself a Christian.  Christianity is 99
> percent dogma.  And as long as the young are being indoctrinated with
> this claptrap and told 'it is the truth', I'd say DMB is
> correct.  Aren't you being a bit of an intellectual elitist?
>
> Marsha
>
>
> At 02:46 PM 3/28/2006, you wrote:
>>DMB
>>
>>there are religious anti-intellectuals and religious pro-intellects,
>>the one may outweigh the other I am sure, to think the latter do not
>>exist is damned dumb ass prejudice my friend. Throw your toys out
>>your crib, calm down, get reasonable and drop your prejudice.
>>I know at bottom you are human enough for this admission.
>>
>>DM
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
>>To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:55 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MD] False Messiah
>>
>>
>> > David M said:
>> > I wonder if DMBs motivation & prejudice here is largely political and 
>> > the
>> > way left/right cuts up in the US. ...In the US the left & pluralists &
>> > anti-authoritarians feel themselves in a sticky postion, but things 
>> > always
>> > change.
>> >
>> > dmb says:
>> > First of all, I resent my comments being characterized as a 
>> > "prejudice".
>> > (Please imagine an obsene gesture here.) And how can I address this
>> > criticism without any reference to whatever comments led you to this
>> > conclusion? I literally don't know what you're talking about.
>> >
>> > And yes, of course I'm motivated by the political situation in the US. 
>> > I
>> > already explained that at the start of this thread. In fact, its not 
>> > just
>> > the motivation, its the topic of this thread. As I already said, I was
>> > trying to bring several political threads into one big one. 
>> > Neo-Victorians
>> > in an age of moral decline. And how is it a moral decline? They put 
>> > social
>> > values over intellectual values. They are religious anti-intellectuals.
>> > See
>> > where faith and theism fit into this? Its obvious, is it not?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
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