[MD] Static latching & faith

[Heather Perella]

Hey Scott,

     Scott said:  "I fail to see what all this has to
do with the following philosophical question: do you
think that the MOQ -- a philosophical treatise -- is
justified in calling itself "pure empiricism"?  I'm
not (in this thread) concerned with emphasizing yin
over yang or DQ over SQ. I am concerned with the MOQ
making a misleading philosophical claim. I have
pointed out two claims that the MOQ puts forth that
strike me as having no empirical basis.  All I am
getting from you is "let's not get caught up in the
distinctions".  Well, ok, if you don't want to, then
don't, but then you're not doing philosophy, and
you're not responding to my concern."

      I guess I'm going out on my own without you in
understanding what empiricism is.  You say it is sense
perception without the perception aspect defined.  I
am saying who is sensing the empirical fact.  It's not
the moon.  It is I, you, us, etc...  So where does the
I and moon separate in the empirical fact?  I cannot
notice the moon without I.  Surely the moon is not in
my head, and I wouldn't notice the moon without the
rock that it is orbiting the earth.  Point to me and
say this is empirical and that is not empirical.  What
is not empirical?  1+1 is empirical I see it with my
eyes then think about it and might even hear myself
say it equals 3 and feel my fingers type this to you. 
All of this is involved in the equation.  Why leave
anything out?  Even as I feel the cold air that air is
involved in my calculations.  Not really sure how you
philosophize, and leaving the distinctions out, having
them in that's all quality.  It's MOQ unless you like
to SOM.
     Do you ever have a moment in life that is beyond
words?  Indescribably awesome and you try to explain
that moment, but you never recreate that moment no
matter how much you try to recreate it with words or
explanation or even acting out in your behavior in a
way that you hope to trigger the event, but it doesn't
happen?  Why wouldn't the event happen again, because
it did happen.  Could such a moment be of something
that is always here and indefinably awesome -such as
life!  Or do you have it all figured out and
statically patterned in some neat little idea.  Or do
you notice the DQ involved in the moment, and the one
long moment called life and that moment we call death.
 Yet, I live this always and will die when I die - yet
where's the static pattern?  Life is not something you
can statically pattern only.  You need a little dash
of DQ, too, even though you purely empirically
experience, act, live, or do whatever you think you do
since you been born here.

SA

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