[MD] From each... to each

[Heather Perella]

Hello,


> [Platt previously] 
> > > Well, we survived very well without cell phones
> for
> > > a few million years.
> 
> [SA] 
> >      Yes, exactly, the value in money stretches
> our
> > culture into separations, and we have had to come
> up
> > with ways to keep these older, more cherishable
> > values, which include interpersonal communication
> > intact.  
> 
> I wouldn't place all the blame for "separations" on
> money. Value placed on 
> alternate attractions in the modern world has a lot
> to do with a it.

     I agree with you, that all the blame is not on $,
value is a legitimate deeper claim for these
separations.  I guess I was focused on all the values
and alternate attractions you speak of, and how much
of this is driven by 'getting the $', which in this
culture is associated with consumerism.  The economy
is closely linked to how much people buy.   I do know
after 9-11 that President Bush asked everybody to keep
buying products.  He knew that if consumer confidence
fell this country would have taken a 'bomb' that Bin
Laden was really trying to set off.  The hitting of
the U.S. economy, which if that goes downhill - this
culture goes downhill.  This culture is an economy
culture that without such economy chaos 'could' (I am
not sure, but project with confidence) rein in the
streets.  People in this culture are glued to getting
their $ and being able to buy stuff with their $.  If
this would ever stop, the streets would be full of
angry mobs.
 
SA said earlier:  Exactly, cell phones are just ropes
holding the
> > culture together.  Without interpersonal
> communication
> > this culture would fall apart.
> 
Platt said earlier:  Don't forget the role of movies,
radio, newspapers,
> TV and other major 
> media outlets in holding the culture together.

     Oh, yes, we are stretched so thin.  Without any
of these would we have a life?  You ever hear people
say, even with all of these things at their disposal,
that they are bored... please something of quality
enter the lives of people.  I mean a quality found in
the beauty of just living and perfecting the morality
of the spirits of humankind.

> [SA]
> > So luckily somebody
> > came along and invented cell phones for all of us
> that
> > need to communicate with other, but don't have the
> > quality time or valuable local distance to just
> talk
> > face to face.  How many husbands, wives,
> boyfriends,
> > girlfriends, friends, family members, bosses,
> > employers, etc.. need cell phones to make the
> > necessary communications happen?  Many, too many I
> > would say.
> 
> I agree with that. There's too much gabbing going on
> and not enough 
> thinking or contemplating.

   Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Platt said earlier:  "Sorry to hear about your
friend. A few who contribute to this site think taking
drugs in moderation is somehow enlightening and point
to Pirsig's experience with taking peyote as directly
responsible for the insights that triggered his
metaphysics. I have my doubts. In any case, I don't
recommend drinking or drugging under any
circumstances."

     I recommend Lame Deer 'Seeker of Visions' to
anybody.  He was a Lakota Amerindian alive during the
mid-1900's.  He was involved in the Peyote Church, but
woke up he says to the real Lakota way of life where
living is not just the real Medicine, but the real
human being knows life fully by the old way - which is
as the human being we are, not by what peyote has to
say about the world, but by what a human being has to
say about a world as living as a human being would
only be the true, proper, old way of understanding
what life is as a human being. 

  Platt said earlier:  "Maybe you'll have a creative
breakthrough under the influence that will save the
world. But, my skepticism of such an outcome knows no
bounds."

     Yes, this is a motivation of mine, and the
skepticism is with me, too.  That's what this whole
rant and rave about $ became.  I do this at times if
you haven't notice from some of the posts I've sent in
the past.  Somehow I still have hope versus chaos so I
guess I haven't crashed into the unwelcoming world of
where all levels except chaos rein.

SA

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