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[craigerb at comcast.net]

SA, Arlo, et al.,
Nope, I agree with this point [see SA below].  My dispute is not with the way our experience affects our language, but with the way our language affects our experience.
Craig

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From: Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com> 

> Hello Craig, and others, 
> 
> > [Arlo] 
> > > Pirsig had also written, "Similarly, Choctaw, 
> > Tunica, the Keresian Pueblo 
> > > Indians and many other people make no 
> > terminological distinction between blue > and 
> > green." Was this because no one, biologically, among 
> > these tribes had the 
> > > necessary receptors in their eyes to make this 
> > distinction? According to 
> > > Pirsig, it is because their culture did not value 
> > such a distinction, and so 
> > > the language did not reflect it, and so those 
> > assimiliating the culture do not 
> > > value it. 
> > 
> > This is a great counter-example to Arlo's theory. 
> > Show a blue card & a green card to a member of one 
> > of the afore-mentioned tribes. Then give them a 
> > deck of such cards & tell them to separate the cards 
> > that look most like the first from those that look 
> > most like the second. He or she will be able to do 
> > so DESPITE NOT HAVING A DIFFERENT WORD FOR THE TWO 
> > COLORS NOR THE CULTURE'S VALUING THE DISTINCTION 
> > BETWEEN THEM. Why? Because he or she experiences 
> > the difference in color. 
> 
> Craig your missing the point. Each of these 
> culture's obviously have seen these different colors, 
> but do not value their difference enough to name them 
> differently. These cultures will not separate the 
> cards distinctly by color. There is no distinction by 
> color. 
> How many times have you seen snow? How many 
> different varieties of snow do you see and name? The 
> Inuit have 10's upon 10's upon 10's of them, I'm not 
> sure of the exact number at this time, but I believe 
> the point in the course I took on this showed that the 
> Inuit had maybe 100 different names for snow and we in 
> the U.S. have no where near that many names for snow. 
> The same for tribes in the Sudan. They have around 
> 100 different names for cattle due to cattle having 
> such a central role in their culture. The cattle mean 
> much more in a number of many more different ways to 
> these tribes than the majority of U.S. citizens. Yet, 
> we see snow and cattle very frequently in certain 
> regions of this country. Why the difference? Value 
> 
> SA 
> 
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