[MD] Intellectual acitivity

[aesuszynski]

Ham,

OK, I think I found it. Is the intro called the Mechanical Garden?

The home page is fine. I can read it all, but the" Values in the Balance" 
page is best described as one page on top of the other which makes parts of 
both unreadable.

I will read your thesis and try to understand it. You must realize I am not 
much of a philosopher . Some of the the terminology escapes my 
understanding, but I do have a great dictionary.

I'll report back.

Alice




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ham Priday" <hampday1 at verizon.net>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Intellectual acitivity


> Hi Alice --
>
>
> [Ham, previously]:
>> [Pirsig] explains physical reality as the creation of experience,
>> but his readers are left to infer that "mind" or self-awareness
>> is an insignificant, accidental by-product of biological
>> evolution.
>
> [Alice]:
>> I wonder if this is your inference because of your particular
>> point of view.  Insignificant is not the same as accidental and
>> I have my doubts as to whether anyone, including Pirsig,
>> thinks self awareness is insignificant.
>
> I would wonder about that, too.  (Could it be that defining a cognizant
> subject in an objective world usually implies duality?)  But I'll wait to
> see what you have to say after reading LILA.
>
> [Ham, previously]:
>> "Self" is that non-empirical identity which becomes aware of
>> the essential Source as differentiated otherness."
>
> [Alice]:
>> And may I assume that the essential Source you are referring to is God?
>
> You may assume that; most do.  I avoid the label 'God' because it tends to
> conjure up an anthropomorphic Being who exists somewhere in outer space 
> and
> occasionally intervenes in human affairs, either by "special request" or 
> to
> make periodic adjustments in accordance with (his) Divine Will.  Essence, 
> by
> contrast, is not a Being but the uncreated, immutable source of all that 
> is.
>
> While you're waiting for LILA, may I suggest that you take some time to 
> read
> my metaphysical thesis (the lengthy page preceding Values in the Balance)?
> This will give you a more comprehensive understanding of Essence than I 
> can
> summarize for you in this space.  I've been hoping to find someone willing
> to provide an intelligent critique of this philosophy.  Mr. Pirsig has
> already declined, along with several others here.  Possibly you will take 
> up
> the challenge.
>
> Essentially yours,
> Ham
>
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