[MD] Neoconservatism

[Platt Holden]

Hey Gene, 

[Gene]
> It's true, I have a lot of trouble in my mind differentiating between
> social and intellectual levels sometimes. Mostly because I feel Society
> perpetuates most of the ideas in the world. Static Intellectual Patterns
> are all given to use at a young age by Society, things like 1+1=2. So
> shouldn't we consider them as also social patterns? It seems like
> Intellectual patterns are formed individually, after the social
> indoctrination is complete. For example my ideas about the MOQ are brand
> new, not taught to me by Society, I have my own views on them, that
> seems like the true intellectual level to me. Built upon the Social
> level, but branching away from it.

Yes. The "true intellectual level" consists of your "own views" as a 
unique individual. That's why I prefer to call the Intellectual level  
the "Individual level" to clarify its separation from the social or 
"Collective level."

[Gene]
> And platt, I would say that the Left is more politically evolved. It
> seems to me that alot of the right politics is along the lines of "This
> is mine! Stay away from what is mine! Get your own!" Of course this is a
> stupid way of putting them down, clearly it's much more complicated. But
> that always strikes me as more the Biological patterns. Male cats mark
> their territory and defend it to the death, they have property, and will
> hold onto it tooth and nail. A proper Social pattern should do away with
> such things, make sure everyone in Society has all they need so that the
> Society can continue to propagate itself. And the Intellectual level
> should be the most open of all! No one wants to hoard thoughts, they
> need to be shared so that they can be refined, leaned down and hopefully
> reach understanding. Seperation is so artificial.

An individual who owns nothing and is prevented by society from ever 
owning anything is a slave.  Do you want to argue for the degree of 
slavery you find acceptable "to make sure everyone in society has all 
they need?" Do you want to argue for giving the government the power to 
decide what you need? 

Obviously I find it hard to imagine how you would implement your social 
goals. What am I missing?  

Platt