[MD] No more SOM and no more money!

[David M]

d'ya think we can do it? No more wages,
no managers, no check outs, no bribery, no crime (well, apart from what you 
can carry)!
Just co-operate or sink?

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Kulp" <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism in all it's shapes


>I have to say, you missed the point of that quote. But, I'd give the
> world without money a shot.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org
> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of David M
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:16 PM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism in all it's shapes
>
> Tonights breaking news is that money has ceased to exist, the government
> are asking people to keep working on a voluntary basis for the time
> being and not to panic....
>
> .....anyone whose work does not invlove anything useful can take the
> rest of their lives off, or help out the people who do real work and
> don't count beans all day and call it work....
>
> please note any attempts to go on paying bills will be pointless....
>
> please do not fill up your shopping trolleys with more goods than you
> need.....
>
> Divad Yerom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Kulp" <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>
> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism in all it's shapes
>
>
>> "Only when the last tree is cut; only when the last river is polluted;
>> only when the last fish is caught;
>> only then will they realize that you cannot eat money."
>> -Cree
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org
>> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of David M
>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:56 PM
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism in all it's shapes
>>
>> addictively consuming junk,until the planet is a wasteland, really
>> bright!
>>
>> David M
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Micah" <micah at roarkplumbing.com>
>> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism in all it's shapes
>>
>>
>>> Stella completely misunderstands capitalism. Capitalism is the
> logical
>>> extension of individual freedom in the marketplace. Consumerism is
> not
>>> capitalism. Capitalism is not theology. It is the freedom to exchange
>>> goods
>>> and services without coercion.
>>>
>>> Micah
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org
>>> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of Stella Lindblom
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:46 AM
>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>> Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism in all it's shapes
>>>
>>>
>>> I think I got it. We didn't get very far in the discussion, but I
>> learned
>>> some important things. Not the one's I had looked for, but others.
>> It's
>>> see no use to discuss this further.
>>>
>>> Capitalist thinking is one of the components in the founding of the
>> USA, a
>>> part of it's essence. It's intertwined in it's culture and history in
>> such
>>> a way that it is impossible to separate the two.
>>>
>>> All cultures have a Story about themselves and about what is
> important
>> and
>>> valuable. The US Story is "the self-made man", "the American dream",
>>> "freedom to money" and things of that kind. It's all about the right
>> to
>>> get rich, the value of becoming Somebody (and Somebodies are  or
>> always
>>> become extremely wealthy) and spreading the right way of living over
>> the
>>> world because happiness may only be found in comsumerism.
>>>
>>> But I'm not american - I don't belive in this, and I don't believe
>> it's
>>> worth the while to discuss it further. Why? In trying to examine the
>>> foundations of capitalism and the distorted way we are dealing with
>>> valuables today, I have to de-construct "the american way of life",
>>> something that in turn is a part of the identity of being american.
>> The
>>> values of society is part of our national identities, regardless of
>>> nationality, and anything I say against capitalism will be construed
>> as a
>>> slur on America herself, and in extension, a slur on the identity of
>>> anybody believing in capitalism. So I stop here. I now understand
> that
>>> this is a question of theology.
>>>
>>>
>>> No need to tell me things on-list as I will un-subscribe as soon as
>> this
>>> message is posted.
>>> If anybody feels inclined to contact me for whatever reason, it may
> be
>>> done off-list.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Stella
>>>
>>>
>>>
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