[MD] So cometh MOQ, what next?

[Micah]

Platt,

The Jews are a religious group. The holocaust was the persecution of Jews,
therefore it was religious persecution. If the Jews were a race, it would
have been racism, but they are religious group and that makes it religious
persecution.

Micah


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Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:

> Platt,
>
> Was group of people did Hitler persecute? Was it the Jews? Aren't the Jews
a
> religious group? So isn't that religious persecution?
>
> Micah

I don't consider the Holocaust motivated by religious belief. I agree with
Pirsig that it was caused by "low level static social and biological
patterns whose
overall purpose was to retard the evolution of truth and Dynamic Quality."
But
Hitler did say he was God's appointed savior of the German people. So in
that
twisted sense, the Nazis cyncially used religious belief to gain and hold
power.
But you still haven't provided evidence to support your assertion that
religion is
"the most destructive force in history." I'm not saying such evidence
doesn't exist,
just that I haven't seen it.

Platt

>
>
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> Quoting Micah <micah at roarkplumbing.com>:
>
> > Platt,
> >
> > How about WW2. Hitler was doing god's work, and his persecution of the
> Jews
> > was religious, since Judaism is not a race. Our current fiasco in Iraq
is
> > religious. Certainly Muslims think it is, even if we are just acquiring
> new
> > markets for capitalism - while Bush says he is guided by god. Religion
is
> > clearly the most destructive force in history. I will not give you a
> history
> > course to prove the point either, I only hold my children's hands.
>
> Hitler's persecution of the Jews was religious? Like our presence in Iraq?
> Guess we have a different understanding of the word "religious." Anyway,
you
> don't have to give a history course to prove your point. Just a recognized
> authority will do, if you can find one.
>
> Platt
>
>
>
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