[MD] extricating MOQ from SOM

[jjengele]

Rebecca said:
  "I use the MOQ in everday life to help me through tricky
   situations but of late I've been turning to the Tao more 
  and more.  All of our thinking isn't for naught, though.  
  I'm finding more and more that my friends come to me
  for advice when they're trying to find a path through 
  some difficult time.  I usually try to give them a larger 
  perspective on the matter - with a dash of commiseration
  for whatever they're going through.  That's a useful enough
  application for Pirsig's philosophy for me.  I spend my 
  time thinking about these things so that others can 
  spend their time thinking of other things...like peak oil 
  and remediating contaminated soils... we lean on each 
  other and we learn from each other.  That's what society 
  is, each person has a place.

  We cannot know who the saviour will be until the saving 
  is over and done with."



With the discovery of Bodvar Skutvik's ideas on the Subject/Object 
Level (SOL or Intellectual level), I see this in your letter:

    ...we lean on each other and we learn from each other.  That's 
       what society is, each person has a place...


'Lean on each other' represents feeling or subjectivity.  'Learn from 
each other' represents reason or objectivity.  That's what the SOL 
is, not society.  At the sociological level, we would be doing what 
was expected of us, nothing more.  Life was hard and if you didn't 
fit your place, you were cast out, those were the rules.  You are 
representing the highest values we have, to lean on and learn from 
each other is valuable.  To question one's place in society would 
be a revolting concept to a Victorian.  Today, I say to do anything 
less is immoral.

Jim Engele