[MD] Case's Answer to Marsha

[David M]

Hi DMB


> David M said to dmb:
If you ask a moral question, you can only
> think in terms of a responsible agent.
>
> dmb replies:
> Why?

DM: Well if you want to ask the rock why it's
bouncing off your head go ahead?

DMB: What is the source of the cosmos and how would you hold it to account?

DM: I agree that's worth thinking about, exactly my point.

 > David M also said:
> Sam Becket: "There is no god. The bastard!" A sentiment that seems to echo
> your emotional attach to the god-idea and touching the same inconsistency.
> You're such an unconvincing atheist because the subject so bothers you -as
> it should not.
>
> dmb replies:
> Me and Beckett? Well, that's a first. Thanks, ...I guess. Anyway, its
> interesting to notice your reaction here in general and in particular the
> way you describe me as "an unconvincing atheist". Can I safely conclude 
> that
> you are a theist who has not yet been persuaded otherwise? That's what it
> looks like to me.

DM: Once againm I can confirm you're wrong, why do you keep going down these
avenues that neither of us are interested in? Avoidance of the substantial 
is the only
conclusion I can draw.

DM: and now DMB will say: "what substantial issues?". Is anyone else finding
DMB boring?

>
> But if I'm trying to persuade anyone of anything, its just that theism
> doesn't fit into the MOQ. What you do in your free time is your own
> business, church boy.

DM: In the very broad culture of theological writing there is much to
condemn and much to interest someone wanting to explore
the possibilities of Pirsig's thought. Same goes for writings on science,
sociology, mythology, etc, etc. DMB's quest to simplify reality into
black and white is just a touch futile and silly.

>
> Feel free to make a case to the contrary, but the validity of the point is
> unrelated to my emotional dispositions.

DM: That's a clever trick! Wish I could do that. Sure you're not a
positivist?

DMB: And you only believe in god because dad never
> loved you. All those cracks about what bothers me should be dismissed
> because you're a neurotic mess and so nothing you say has any validity. Or
> is it the other way around?

DM: Damn it I think you're right. I think I might just be trying to get you 
to love me.
Is it working? Can I tie you to the whipping post and sing you some Frank 
Zappa
or worse, read you my poetry?