[MD] Julian Baggini interview

Horse horse at darkstar.uk.net
Sun Nov 5 15:55:40 PST 2006


Hi Mark

Squonkonguitar at aol.com wrote:
> Hi Mark, Ian and All
> 
> First off Mark, as you're aware that Glenn was  removed from MD some time 
> back I would have appreciated a request to post  the material that you 
> posted. It's called common courtesy.
>  
> Mark 5-11-06: Hello Horse.
> I apologise for my mistake.
> If Glenn provides any future information for me, i won't simply include it  
> in any e-mail's from me without seeking your permission first.
> If you refuse, i shall honour your decision.

Thanks Mark, it's appreciated. To be honest with you I can't see what 
Glenn is likely to bring to the discussion that will be of any value 
given that his only purpose is to do whatever damage he can by whatever 
means. Perhaps you should keep that in mind when he next gets in touch 
with you - which will probably be fairly soon. Like as soon as this 
drops through into his inbox.

> 
> Horse:
> Secondly, I've been following this thread and am somewhat  mystified as 
> to the nature of the accusations that seem to have been flying  about.
>  
> Mark 5-11-06: I'm asking questions not making accusations Horse.
> That Baggini felt Anthony was going to include his interview on  
> robertpirsig.org is not an accusation, it's a statement of fact.
> Asking why the interview isn't on robertpirsig.org isn't an accusation,  it's 
> a question.

Fair enough - but the way this whole thing has been handled, what's 
coming through looks like accusations and acrimony. If Ant doesn't want 
to put the interview in as is, or provide a link that's up to him. I'm 
sure we could have come to some alternative and satisfactory arrangement 
   by talking it out among ourselves.

>  
> Horse:
> The Baggini interview was put up on moq.org when it came out and  when 
> the link was removed I was unaware that the article existed  elsewhere.
>  
> Mark 5-11-06: Well, now you know don't you?

I do now, yeah - couldn't you have emailed me about it beforehand?

> 
>>From my correspondence and contact with Ant there has never been a  
> problem with the article being linked and when I became aware of the  
> address to the interview it was reinstated with Ant's full knowledge and  
> approval.
>  
> Mark 5-11-06: At 20:27 05-11-06 i checked MOQ.org and the link to the  
> Baggini interview does not work.

Try the refresh button on your browser. The link was sorted out a couple 
of days ago.

>  
> Horse:
> If Ant chooses not to link or display it on his site then what's  the 
> problem?
>  
> Mark 5-11-06: What's your problem with me asking Horse?
> I'm not going to go the same way as Glenn for asking questions am i?
> Or do we live in a Police state all of a sudden?

Don't be daft - you know perfectly well that you'd have to seriously 
piss me off for that to happen, which is highly unlikely. Glenn got what 
he deserved and he's behaved like a big girls blouse ever since. No 
moral fibre whatsoever.

>  
> Horse:
> It's there for all to see linked from moq.org.
>  
>  
> Mark 5-11-06: At 20:27 05-11-06 i checked MOQ.org and the link to the  
> Baggini interview does not work.

See above.

> 
>  
> Horse:
> Would you and/or Ian care to explain the nature of the grievance  you 
> seem to be bearing at the moment. Explicitly. Then maybe both Ant and  
> myself can answer any questions that need answering.
> 
> Horse
>  
> Mark 5-11-06: I don't speak for Ian or anyone else; i speak only for  me.
> I've already explicitly aired my concern regarding editorial control.

Both Ant and myself have and will retain editorial control over our own 
sites. We both have the best interests of the MoQ at heart although we 
may go about it in different ways. Given our interests and efforts over 
many years I would have thought you'd trust us by now.

Cheers Mark


Horse










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