[MD] Case's Answer to Marsha: Part 4

[Ron Kulp]

Case,
I am very intrigued with your statement of the tao, there is a theory on the dynamic of this phenomona in quantum physics, I have attached
It. I would welcome your input on the subject. I think it has something to say about DQ and SQ. I think the model Nassim has created
Effectively illustrates the DQ-SQ phenomenon. There is also reference to fractile geometry, another great metaphor for it. A mathmatical
 Yin- Yang. The results are astounding.
-Ron



What is the Origin of Spin?
 
By 
Nassim Haramein
?
 
 
 
Ask the question, "What is the origin of the rotation or spin of all objects from galaxies, suns and planets to atoms and subatomic particles?"
and you  may  get  the answer that it originates at the big bang as an initial impulse (moment) and that it has been spinning since then in a frictionless environment.
  
>From this response, now you may have two 
additional questions:
 
is a frictionless environment a good representation of our observation, and where did the energy come from initially?  To the first one, our universe is comprised of not only space, but matter/energyÏall of which is interacting in plasma dynamics of galaxies, solar systems 
(solar winds), and so on. Even in the intergalactic vacuum, which  is centimeters apart. All of this stuff interacting does not make for an ideal frictionless environment.In fact, this idealization further standardizes the spinning object as a solid with no viscosity di
fference of spin. A good experiment that you can perform is to boil an egg and after the egg is completely cooled, try to spin it on your desk.  It will spin in a uniform manner and you can imagine that if it wasin a frictionless environment it could spin forever.  Now 
perform the same experiment with a nonboiled egg; you will observe that the egg will slow down rapidly due to its viscous core.  Now 
Envision the viscous magma inside our planet,it  certainly  is  not  spinning  in  a  frictionless  environment. center is thought to 
act as a dynamo to generate our magnetic field; however, it takes torque to spin the dynamo! Currently there are elaborate thermal
 and magnetic models that attempt to explain the inner spin of the core of our planet; however, none explain where the impulse moment initially comes from.  Where is the force coming from? The same dilemma applies for the spin of all objects our sun, galaxies, atoms, subatomic particles,  and  so  on,  which  brings  us  back  to  the  second  part of our question above concerningthe origin of the energy of spin.The origin of the energy is unknown,and at the quantum level of subatomic particles causation is not addressed! 
 
Yet, without spin/rotation none of reality can come to exist. All things spinEven things that appear not to! You may say
that tree spins,and that tree is on a planet that is spinning, and this planet is in a solar system that is spinning inside a galactic 
disk and so on.  So we could say that spin is fundamental  to  creation, and objects  that appear to be  inanimate  exist 
solely  because spinning atoms within allow the objects to radiate, and hence, appear in our reality. So an important endeavor of physics would be to find the fundamental  forces  necessary  to generate spin since, if those were known, we would ultimately know the foundations of reality.  That is a valuable thing to know , never mind the fact that it could provide very important clues about energy and gravity,which can have huge impacts on our current 
state of technology and ecology.  Yet, in all of the intricacies of both quantum theory and 
relativistic  equations  (and  I  assure  you  that  these  complexities  are  not  trivial),...continued in the attachment   


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Subject: [MD] Case's Answer to Marsha: Part 4

Part Four: 

B.S. - Bull Shit
M.S - More of Same
Ph.D - Piled higher and Deeper
 

Even the structure of the Tao Te Ching is ambiguous. It is divided into two parts. The first part is about The Way: Tao. The second part is about
Virtue: Te. I have one translation based on a recently found ancient manuscript where the order is reversed and the second part comes first so the book is the Te Tao Ching or the Book of the Virtuous Way.

As it is most commonly characterized the Tao Te Ching is about the union of opposites. It holds that unity is undefined and knowable only though its manifestations generally in pairs. These pairs or dualisms are known or appreciated mainly through their relationships to each other. Yin-Moon and Yang-Sun are the classic catchalls for this.

The Yin-Yang symbol of Taoism is a familiar icon. It shows up everywhere from the Korean flag to surfboards, popular jewelry, posters and T-shirts.
It is a circle divided into swirls of white and black. Each swirl includes a dot of its opposite in the fat part of its swirl. It actually comes from a representation of Chinese solar observation. They would drive an eight foot long pole in the ground and measure the length of its shadow throughout the year. The light and dark patterns in the circle come from the lengthening and shortening of the shadow through out the course of the year. This is text and I can't draw you a picture but you can see it here:

http://www.chinesefortunecalendar.com/yinyang.htm

Although the Chinese recognized an essential dualism in the world they did not see the kind of conflict that westerners see in opposition. Day becomes night and night divides the day. What goes around, comes around. Opposites compliment and define each other, they do not conquer or obliterate each other.

In the balance or proper relationship between opposites one finds harmony or The Way. But this should not suggest that balance mean equal measure. It can be found in the hint of shadows on a sunlit day or the glimmer of moonlight on a darkened pond. 

That is The Way. But so what? The Taoist approach to life is to go with the flow. Rather than trying to force the world to behave in a certain way the wise man or the Sage is shapeless and adjusts himself to the shape of the world. There are versions of this in the west of course, the willow is stronger than the oak in a high wind because it bends rather than breaks. 

The value of a cup is not the hard container itself but the hollow emptiness it surrounds.

What Pirsig seems to have recognized in this is the Taoist ability to reconcile opposites. He first sees it in the Classical Romantic spilt but that is only one duality. The Tao reconciles all duality. It is not about reconciliation through victory it is about sustaining the cycles of nature.
It is not about directing the flow or forming patterns it is about the flow itself.

Several times I have pointed out my objections to Pirsig's use of the term Quality to name the Tao. The term Quality serves his purpose in his discussion of Value but by giving it a name we know he creates the illusion that we know it. He basically defines the undefined. By naming it after an abstraction like Quality he emphasizes one aspect of the Tao. But in so doing he turns our attention away from other aspects. Recognizing full well that I would be committing the same error, I would prefer to call it The Way. But my first choice would be to simply leave alone and call it Tao. The word is familiar to the western mind but it still seems alien. We don't pretend so much to understand its meaning and it retains an element of Dynamic Quality as a result.

Still given the teleological bent of so many MoQers and the mystical bent of others I think The Way is a much better way of naming the unnamable Quality.
It implies a path or a journey, movement through space and time. A path wanders over and around obstacles. We see it ahead of us and it guides our steps but we still do not know where it is leading or if we will get there.
The Way is a mystery but we are tuned by nature to recognize it in the patterns of meaningful coincidence that arise with every step we take.

When the Shit hits the Fan
Hold your breath, close your eyes and walk on.

End of Part Four





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