[MD] vegetarianism

[Jos Laycock]

Hello Damian
Fair enough, in fact I completely agree with everything you've said, I'm 
just being provocative to try and draw people into the discussion.
How do you interpret the MOQ to relate to vegitarianism though? Aside from 
cruelty, and taste and personal preference,  I am interested to see how the 
moral position can be philosophically justifiied within the construct.
I'm quite happy to drop all the other nonsense.

Jos


>From: Damian Gerow <dgerow at afflictions.org>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Subject: Re: [MD] vegetarianism
>Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:46:26 -0500
>
>I'm going to ignore the 'what we really are' debate here.
>
>Thus spake Jos Laycock (jos5 at hotmail.co.uk) [08/11/06 03:28]:
>: S'not correct, depends on how much you think before you eat.
>
>Agreed.
>
>: I see it that vegitarianism is a suppression of biological urges by a
>: cultural morality,
>
>You're generalizing.
>
>I have no biological urges to eat meat.  In fact, eating meat makes me want
>to vomit.  Especially when I think about what I'm eating.  And though I may
>be a minority, I'm definitely not alone in this.
>
>: There's nothing wrong with vegitarianism provided that the higher 
>morality
>: doesn't threten to pull the rug out from under its own feet. 1st question
>: then is: Can a diet that excludes meat genuinely sustain nutrient intake 
>in
>: a way that is comparable to one that doesn't? and secondly: What if one
>
>I haven't had meat for about a decade.  I take no suppliments.  Yet I've 
>had
>no serious health problems in those ten years: my iron content is fine, I
>get more than enough protein, and I have zero problems with B5 (the Big
>Three problems that face vegetarians).
>
>In fact, I tend to /not/ come down with whatever seasonal flu/cold bug that
>is going around.  I haven't actually been sick in years.
>
>Please drop the 'vegetarianism is healthier' or 'meat eating is healthier'
>debate.  Both are wrong: you can eat unhealthily whether or not you eat
>meat.
>
>: becomes so crazed with meat withdrawal that all useful intellectual 
>thought
>: becomes impossible?
>
>Wow, uh...  I don't even know how to respond to that question.  If someone
>becomes uncapable of intellectual thought due to a desire to eat meat, then
>that person should probably be eating meat.
>
>: Have you seen a vegitarian in the prezence of frying bacon?
>
>If a vegetarian's mouth waters in the presence of frying bacon, I'd
>postulate that they're not really a vegetarian at all.  Personally, though 
>I
>enjoy the smell of frying bacon, the thought of eating it disgusts me.
>
>My personal feelings: there are meat eaters, and there are non-meat eaters.
>You can eat meat ethically, and you can avoid meat ethically.  Personally,
>I'm not a meat eater, but that's my decision for myself, and not for you.
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