[MD] Objectivism and the MOQ

Mike Craghead mike at humboldtmusic.com
Fri Nov 10 14:58:17 PST 2006


[H said]
"It's nice to feel that Life is GOOD. That value judgment may make you a 
happy person, but not a very thoughtful or intellectual one. Life is a 
balance of the good and the bad, just as the evolutionary world is."

Of course! But to a large extent, your world depends not just on your 
perception of it, but on how you spin the perception. You can't take it 
all in at once, so how do we discriminate? Maybe looking to the Quality, 
and "accentuating the positive," is more productive: for me, quality 
change comes when I see the positive and steer toward it, without 
wallowing in the negative. It doesn't mean you put on blinders (or rose 
colored glasses or beer goggles or cookie-cutter doctrine, insert your 
own metaphor), it means you pick your battles.

To ignore injustice is immoral, so don't ignore it. But do something 
productive about it. Depression is a constant danger in life, because 
it's easy to let yourself feel powerless and frustrated by (insert 
whatever pisses you off most here). So I think it's practical 
("pragmatic?") to focus on "good" stuff, because the alternative is 
paralysis (or bitching, which is a close relative of paralysis). Look at 
positive change, and you see that it's driven by positive people.

Is this too Tom Robbins for MOQ_discuss?
Re: Tom: Some folks might argue that he's got enough raw material for a 
complete Pirsig-esque metaphysics, but he squanders it on Wine, Women 
and Song. Is he a smug, lazy asshole, or is he onto something? Has he 
carried "looking on the bright side" into irresponsible moral decay, or 
is he the most evolved son of a bitch on earth?

Mike Craghead
humboldtmusic.com
humboldtmusic.com/mc
humboldtmusic.com/sarimike

LARAMIE LOEWEN wrote:
> [H]:
> Oh ye of little faith!  I'm disappointed in this self-revelation, Laramie.
> It's nice to feel that Life is GOOD.  That value judgment may make you a
> happy person, but not a very thoughtful or intellectual one.  Life is a
> balance of the good and the bad, just as the evolutionary world is.
> Morality is man's means of ordering his world toward what he sees as
> beneficial and useful.  This can't be achieved so long as man is a Pollyanna
> or believes that he is subservient to the vicissitudes of Nature.
>
> [L]:
> Yea, I was being light hearted with this comment.  Trusting that life is 
> good doesn't mean you avoid the bad.  On the contrary. 
>
> [H]:
> I can see I've gotten nowhere with you, Laramie.  To reject Cosmology is to
> reject a fundamental theory.  "Grounded in Existence" makes no sense to me,
> nor does "Existence is the undifferentiated Absolute Source".  All existence
> is differentiated, hence it cannot be the Absolute Source.  You've just
> admitted that Existence is multi-dimensional!
>
> [L]:
> What is the implication of your concluding sentence?
>
> Cheers,
> Laramie  
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