[MD] tiny skull... change... nothingness...

Micah micah at roarkplumbing.com
Mon Nov 13 18:39:50 PST 2006


Ham,

The universe is intelligently designed? Compared to what other design?

Micah

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SA --


> I'm getting the feeling that you believe that Absolute
> Essence knows everything, is all-knowing thus can't be
> nothing.  If so, this is why I also veer from your
> thesis.  I believe ultimate reality doesn't know
> what's coming next.  Whatever foresight ultimate
> reality has, I'm sure it's more than mine, on some
> kind of larger scale, but I also believe ultimate
> reality has the capability to make something totality
> new, even to itself.

If it gives you any comfort, I am not a theist.  Despite the fact that I
think the universe is intelligently designed, I do not believe in an
omniscient Creator.

[Ham, previously]:
> Essence is not subject to divisions or levels
> because it is absolute.

[SA]:
> Those levels are not discrete divisions.  The
> levels overlap each other, and at the same time are
> able to be specific enough.  It's the tree is a tree,
> and a tree is a proton, electron, etc...  Different
> levels overlapping each other, dependent upon each
> other.

Overlapping levels are still levels -- differences.  Absolute Essence is the
non-differentiated Not-Other.  Differentiation occurs only in the human
perspective of Essence, which is Existence.

-- Ham

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