[MD] Nihilism

gav gav_gc at yahoo.com.au
Tue Nov 14 18:18:31 PST 2006


 ham said:

> In my opinion, the denial of a primary source or
> cause of Existence is
> tantamount to a rejection of cosmic purpose and
> human meaning.  To assert
> that Nothingness is the ultimate reality is to deny
> ultimate reality and the
> essential value that it holds for man.

ham please read the replies to your initial question.
nothingness = no-thingness, ie the undifferentiated.
what don't you understand about this?

  Pirsig makes
> Quality exclusive to
> the material universe

ham please read pirsig's books before you comment on
him otherwise you look like rather silly. the material
universe is *created* by quality, according to pirsig
and the MOQ.

 and (its "intellectual
> byproduct") the collective
> society.

huh?

  Thus for him, Morality is innate in the
> universe,

the universe is innate in morality

 and value or
> purpose (teleology) is a function of natural
> evolution rather than
> contingent upon human sensibility and free choice. 

same thing ham. human sensibility and free choice =
natural evolution. more on this later.

> From my essentialist
> point of view, any philosophy that rejects the value
> of the individual
> relative to a non-existential source is amoral and
> nihilistic.

huh? do you know what you are ham? do you think you
are your ego? where do you end and 'not-you' begin?
your skin? your house? your possessions? your city?
your country? your planet? your universe? 
 
'you', your precious 'individual', is an idea, a very
limited idea. there cannot be a 'you' and 'not-you' if
all is one...undifferentiated. until you get this in
your head and in your heart you will continue to miss
the point. 

i suggest you stop thinking and writing and go into a
forest by yourself for a week. then tell me who 'you' are.

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