[MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters

[David M]

Micah

Do we do science by sitting around and chatting?

Rather, we ask nature questions and await a reply?

Such is the expressive assumptions of our knowing
and our listening to what is not human.

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Micah" <micah at roarkplumbing.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters


> Case,
>
> You assume, try not to.
>
> Is a rose, without humans? What is, without humans?
>
> Thanks for your honest response. As I said, I cannot know for you, and I 
> see
> that you just don't understand.
>
> Micah
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org
> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org]On Behalf Of Case
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:48 PM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Flying Spagetti Monsters
>
>
> SA,
>
> Man is the measure of all things. Plain and simple, and unavoidable. I
> cannot know this for you, you must know it for yourself. We are reality.
> Reality doesn't define us; we define reality, not animals nor trees. 
> Things
> are what we say they are, nothing else defines reality, or attempts to. 
> You
> cannot remove man from reality and still have reality. You can want to, or
> pretend to, assume, or wish, or pray, or anything, but you cannot have
> reality without man. Man is the measure of all things. Know that and move
> forward.
>
> Micah
>
>
>
> Man is the measure of all things. Each individual creates a comprehensive
> representation of the external world which ceases to exist upon the
> individual's departure. If that is what you mean then it is it true. Trite
> but true.
>
> When I die my reality dies with me but to assert that all reality dies 
> with
> me is either vanity or silliness. Certainly we define reality in some
> linguistic sense. A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose smelling just as
> sweet by any other name.
>
> But so what?
>
> A change of definition will not increase the volume of my manhood nor the
> shape of soap bubbles.
>
> If by some cosmic twist of fate all men are removed, all that will change 
> is
> reality will have lost it's sense of humor.
>
> Case
>
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