[MD] scatological economics

[MarshaV]

Gav,

I totally agree with you.  It's extremely sad.  To see this makes you 
an outlander, and a killjoy.  To change it seems a hopeless task.  To 
make matters worse, it's impossible to avoid participation.  And to 
make matters catastrophic, both to reject or accept it only reinforces it.

I think about this.  And since woman is the measure of all things, I 
wonder, 'What can I do?'

Presently I am looking towards Buddhism.  Like the MOQ, it seems to 
suggest IT is a mirage.  It seems to advise that meditation will help 
one see through the mirage.  It also suggests that in IT's place one 
should develop compassion and generosity towards all living 
things.  While I have no expectations of enlightenment, I have been 
testing this out, and it does lighten things up.  I have made changes 
in my way of living, but there is still much to do.  Well, that's how 
I'm measuring things at the moment.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to articulate what is on my 
fuzzy mind.  But that too is illusion.

Marsha


At 07:23 PM 11/15/2006, Gav wrote:
>war is very very good for the economy. with war
>billions are made on producing and using weapons. then
>after the devastation other corporations make billions
>from rebuilding. war is very sensible in a capitalist
>economy.
>
>illness is very good too. cancer, heart disease,
>depression etc make trillions for the medical and
>pharmaceutical industries. better to cultivate then
>treat (porrly) disease, rather than prevent it. where'
>s the dough in prevention?
>
>built in obsolence is great too. why build something
>to last when you build it to break down and sell
>another, and another, and another. crap stuff is great
>for the capitalist economy.
>
>advertising, especially to kids, is great in a
>capitalist economy. their vulnerable minds lap up
>directives to eat shit food, buy this or that piece of
>crap...and usually the parents accede to their demands
>for shit cos they can't be bothered arguing. and of
>course: 'give me the child until he is 7 and i will
>show you the man'. hey worked pretty well for
>catholicism.
>
>what's good for the economy is infinite growth. more
>resources, more products, more services, more wars,
>more cancer, more depression, more jails (cheap
>labour!), more sweatshops (ditto).....don't
>stop....paradise is around the corner.
>
>we live in a society that is held to ransom by an
>abstraction - the economy - that assigns a monetary
>value to everything and sees this AS THE ONLY VALUE.
>
>this is not very MOQ. monetary value is one social
>subset of value proper. it is a subsidiary value to
>intellectual values of logic, fairness, foresight,
>democracy etc. and trumping all - quality. shit is
>shit full stop. ever watch ads: they advertise shit.
>that's why it has to be advertised. otherwise people
>won't buy it. simply: corporate capitalism produces
>(through its taylorist/fordist mass production
>paradigm) shit. shit that it has to convince us to
>buy, eat, live in etc.
>
>what am i advocating here? well not a socialist
>economy, that's for sure. the socialist economies we
>have seen last century are really just state
>capitalism. they are inferior in some ways to
>corporate capitalism; in someways they are superior.
>but they both suck from an objective intellectual
>viewpoint. they both produce shit by and large.
>
>no. i think it's about QUALITY(funny that). do we get
>quality from making things as quickly and cheaply as
>possible? do we? no we don't. this is obvious.
>
>our economy is based on expediency. time is money.
>time is money time is money. where do you SPEND your
>time? let's accelerate towards oblivion.
>
>our economy is based on greed and fear. the stock
>market runs on these primal instincts. nothing
>sophisticated here. nothing special. nothing very
>evolved here. greed and fear: hell of a way to run a
>world.
>
>so what's the answer gav...well fortunately a bloke
>prepared one earlier for me: quality. if it ain't
>quality fuck it off. don't buy shit. don't eat shit.
>don't put shit on your body. quality and shit are
>opposites, except for in the garden!