[MD] Some abiding beliefs -Part 3
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Sat Nov 18 17:58:08 PST 2006
Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:
>
> These are some of my abiding beliefs. They have
> baselines similar to yours Platt, but I'm sure how I
> word it is not how you see your beliefs. Anyways...
>
>
> [Platt]
> > There is no escape from your inability to make a
> > distinction between yourself and your experience.
>
> Yeap, and that's why deer are me and I am deer.
> The tree branch is my arm, and the trunk my tongue.
> There is no escape from my experience. I am a part of
> this earth. I can make distinctions about it, such as
> tongue, branch, etc..., but those distinctions are
> conventional, for the purpose of communicating to
> others. Usually, this world is overlapping it's own
> distinctive trees, deer, and birds, and thus, I
> experience a rainy day when the water falls and see
> myself in those rain drops. I talk and so I hear
> birds talk. Inability to make a distinction between
> myself and my experience. When birds talk it's just
> how this experience is me. Anthropomorphizing and
> Naturopomorphizing
In my statement, experience is of distinctions between myself
and a tree.
> > What's good or not good is an intuitive sense rather
> > than a intellectual concept. Later, we rationalize.
>
> Now, later on, I might rationalize everything
> into these neat little boxes, but sooner or later,
> I'll want to just enjoy the primary reality once
> again. AAAAhhh, the breeze through the hair... the
> gray clouds upon the eyes... so relaxing.
It's difficult to stop that little talking guy in your head. How do
you shut him up?
[Platt]
> > Consciousness is a single light from which
> > differentiated thoughts emerge.
>
> And what I'm consciousness of is one single
> light where deer bounce my mind and thought to thought
> as these deer graze and walk I walk with them, I am
> walking, I am a deer... no distinctions, yet...
Are you in some sort of trance?
> [Platt]
> > First split in the continuum of pure experience is
> > yes/no.
>
> What have I learned from this primary experience?
> What will I emerge with this time around? What will
> I say yes to and what will I say no to, as I split the
> world into self/nonself, human/nonhuman? These are
> the splits I'm seeing as well.
This yes/no split I refer to is the first expression of a child.
Platt
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