[MD] economic pragmatism

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Sun Nov 19 08:02:44 PST 2006


> Mark 19-11-06: Hello Gav,
> I've given this some thought before  i was ever introduced to the moq 
> and the moq has provided a frame for  looking at this afresh. Here is a
> starter: First off, Humans are  evolutionary speaking animals, that is to
> say,  biological  patterns. Therefore, these patterns should be supported
> as a matter  of  necessity. 1. All biologically supporting requirements
> should  be provided free: Food,  water, health care, shelter, energy, and
>  must harmonise with the  biosphere.

Provided by whom?
 
Mark 19-11-06b: Hello Platt,
Provided by farmers growing local produce freely dispensed.
Such individuals should me accorded the highest social status and  respect.

> Note a: We need a Planetary
> population stable  around a sustainable  volume. Humans are the basis for
> a culture of  social and intellectual  patterns. Social patterns are
> imitated  which implies a form of indoctrination. Therefore the best
> patterns for  imitating should be encouraged. These would  appear to
> include the  belief that 1 is basic.

Indoctrinate the belief there's a land of milk  and honey free for the 
taking? I don't think so.
 
Mark 19-11-06b:
Land does not belong to anyone. I've emphasised that in 2.
As one saying goes, 'There is enough for everyone's need, not for  everyone's 
greed.'

2. Beyond that, caring for others, a
> distaste  for violence, lack of  territorial boundary, the encouragement
> of  realising individual talents,  provided free, and must not
>  destabilise 1

Provided free? By whom? No private property (boundaries)  either?
 
Mark 19-11-06b:
By peers. A community of artists provide for fellow artists, a community of  
crafts provide for fellow crafters, etc.
Those patterns usually regarded as property are really relationships. The  
best property is a good relationship, and individuals can only form a limited  
number of them in a lifetime. Having, 'things' sitting in your garage all year  
long for no purpose other than to arbitrarily regard them as, 'owned' is  
sick.

> Note b: We need a Planetary government which does not
>  bias tribes. Social patterns support intellectual patterns.

You want a  bunch of tin horn dictators in the U.N. ruling your life? No 
thanks.
 
Mark 19-11-06b:
There wouldn't be any nations for to unite Platt. No boundaries, no  nations.
People come before nations.

> 3.
> Information must be a  free exchange provided free, and must not 
> destabilise 1 and  2.

Information from whom? Who decides what "destabilizes" 1 and 2?
 
Mark 19-11-06b:
Information from the Human encyclopaedia of static patterns.
Everyone decides what destabilises 1 and 2. Those who care more about the  
environment would be listened to and respected for their care in that  regard.
Those who care about social harmony would be listened to and respected for  
their care in that regard.

> Note c: Religion must be replaced by  an
> appreciation of the  undifferentiated aesthetic  continuum.

So much for free exchange of information.
 
Mark 19-11-06b:
In time people may come to regard religions as immature.

> That's  my
> basic framework around which an economic pattern may be   developed.
> Love, Mark

My basic framework for an economic pattern  is like Pirsig's -- a free 
market consisting of free people exchanging  freely created goods and 
services according to freely determined  values.

Platt
 
Mark 19-11-06b:
Free to treat children as economic units you mean.
Merry 'Resident evil 4' Christmas to you!
Love,
Mark




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