[MD] economic pragmatism

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Mon Nov 20 12:24:23 PST 2006


Hello Mark --
What happens to the farmer who doesn't want to give away  the crops 
she's worked hard to grow and harvest?
 
Mark 20-11-06: Hello Platt,
Well, i'm assuming our utopia of sorts is populated with people who live  
their lives under self imposed rules which are different from the ones  people 
live by at the moment. What shall we call our utopia? Let's call it:  Welcome.
In welcome, everyone is cared for and supported. There is an  understanding 
that while no one owns anything, harmonic relationships are valued  almost as 
ownership. So, the musician owns his/her instrument because the  relationship 
between them harms the Human if the relationship is broken, and  quality is 
raise when they remain together.
The farmer has a similar relationship with the land; the produce is like  the 
music the musician plays - quality is raised when it is freely  available.

Platt:
If the land doesn't belong to anyone, what's to stop  someone from 
coming in building houses on the land used by a farmer?
 
Mark 20-11-06:
Ideology stops it; a competing ideology suggests it.

Platt:
Is the hardworking farmer suppose to feed a community of  artists?
 
Mark 20-11-06:
The farmer enjoys farming, that's why they do it. The reward for farmers is  
in their love of their work, and the satisfaction of supporting basic needs.  
These people of Welcome are accorded high social status.
 
Platt:
What happens if she refuses?

Mark 20-11-06:
Social values imitated from childhood make the suggestion difficult to  
regard as usual.

Platt:
Who or what protects and preserves the rights of free speech,  free 
travel, freedom of religion, trial by jury, gun ownership, etc?
 
Mark 20-11-06:
Ideology.

> Mark 19-11-06b:
> Information from the Human  encyclopaedia of static patterns.
> Everyone decides what destabilises 1  and 2. Those who care more about
> the  environment would be listened  to and respected for their care in
> that  regard. Those who care  about social harmony would be listened to
> and respected for  their  care in that regard.

How does "everyone decide?"
 
Mark 20-11-06:
Empirical observation of static quality i imagine.
Inherent in the notion is an understanding that freedoms are limited by  
their evolutionary status according to that described in the  moq.

Platt:
What happens to someone who starts and maintains a  Christian 
radio station?
 
Mark 20-11-06:
The people of Welcome would be educated to understand Christianity is  
largely a matter of socialy imitated patterns of behavior.
The core teaching of Christianity is actually practiced in  Welcome.

> 
> Mark 19-11-06b:
> Free to treat children as  economic units you mean.

Not a value to most people. 

Platt
 
Mark 20-11-06:
Capitalist economies target the economic potential of children  vigorously.
Think Disney, think McDonalds, etc.
Here, you're kids are welcome only if they can afford it.
Love,
Mark




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