[MD] economic pragmatism

[Heather Perella]

Gav, Mark, Platt, and others,

     Don't you think that if the population of the
earth wasn't as big as it is we wouldn't have that big
of a problem finding a way to give free food, housing,
and all these other basic necessities that have been
discussed upon this thread?  Also, all the other
impacts upon this earth, which includes human beings,
would lessen maybe... that doesn't mean trouble
disappears completely.  By the way, a statistic that
fits into this that I heard yesterday at an assembly
at my work.  80% of prison inmates were in foster care
at one time or another during their lifetime.  That
astounds me.  

SA

      

> > Mark 21-11-06: Hello Platt,
> > I don't have a problem with self-reliance but i
> don't feel this has to  
> > equate to do or die.
> > In Welcome, to use the name i've adopted for our
> utopia, food is free, so  no 
> > one has to worry about starving under usual
> circumstances. And we've already  
> > advocated educational awareness of the importance
> of food provision and the  
> > social status of farmers in society.
> > In other words, social conditioning places high
> value on Human  care.
> > The quality force becomes less of a written rule
> and more of a Human  
> > imperative - but reinforced.
> > The same goes for violence and disruption.
> > Does this introduce a tension between
> self-reliance and society at all  Platt?
> >  
> > Regarding enforcement beyong social conditioning:
> This requires  thought.
> > I think a basic requirement is a limiting of
> freedom for those who go out  of 
> > their way to harm society.
> 
> Hello Mark,
> Your Utopia reminds me that old folk song, "Big Rock
> Candy Mountain" where the
> "cops have wooden legs, the bulldogs all have rubber
> teeth and the hens lay
> soft-boiled eggs."
> 
> Take just your idea that "food is free." What makes
> you think farmers and fishermen
> are going to work 18 hour days for "social status?" 
> And what's on a free menu?
> Steak and lobster? If not, who decides who gets
> what? As for "Welcome" as the name
> for your Utopia, I was reminded of that word over
> the entrance to Dachau. Scary.
> 
> Sorry Mark. Try as you might, there ain't no free
> lunch -- trite but true. 
> 
> Platt 
> 
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