[MD] Free Speech

Heather Perella spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 23 17:57:43 PST 2006


     [David M.]
> Let us stand and applaud the amazing persistence of
> the great Arlo!


     Definitely.  Platt and I agree on some points,
but others, which basically this is still a individual
v. collectivism on Platt's side, where Arlo took out
the versus and uses what Ian says - middle path.  As
far as I know this 'versus' Platt still upholds has
gone for at least three months now.  Yet, maybe this
'versus' comes and goes, for Platt is entrenched on
his point, and Arlo his.  I guess the persistence has
been both Platt and Arlo, but as I said, Arlo took the
Middle Path, and Platt the versus on this point.  Yet,
the seemingly contrasted perspectives of Arlo and
Platt has been on-going since I joined.  It's amazing.

woods,
SA


 ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ARLO J BENSINGER JR" <ajb102 at psu.edu>
> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Free Speech
> 
> 
> > [Platt on the KKK]
> > Speech not backed by action is harmless. Speech
> backed by blowing people 
> > up
> > isn't. That's the difference.
> >
> > [Arlo]
> > So its okay to suggest lynchings, so long as you
> don't carry them out? If 
> > what
> > you are saying is "any group advocating violence
> against others should be
> > censored", I might understand. But you seem to
> give some groups a pass on
> > advocating violence, while condemning others for
> it. Violence against 
> > others is
> > violence. Whether advocated by the KKK or
> Hezbollah. No?
> >
> > [Platt]
> > I'm still waiting for Columbia to take action
> against the students who 
> > attacked
> > the minute man. (Yes, I know -- you're not
> responsible.)
> >
> > [Arlo]
> > Yes, I know -- you'd like to imply I am.
> >
> > [Platt]
> > At least I'm not a hypocrite about being tolerant.
> Didn't you tell me that
> > hypocrisy was a sin?
> >
> > [Arlo]
> > Please tell me what I said you find hypocritic?
> Yes, hypocrisy is a sign 
> > that
> > you are relying on social-emotive tools rather
> than intellect.
> >
> > [Platt]
> > Not any more, thanks to virtually wiping them out
> -- exactly what the 
> > world
> > needs to do to Islamic terrorists, the sooner the
> better.
> >
> > [Arlo]
> > Here you seem to suggest that groups advocating
> violence are harmless if 
> > they
> > lack the means to carry through with their
> threats. If the KKK were more
> > organized, would they then become a group you
> would ban? Does this means 
> > its
> > not the message, but the power that creates the
> need for censorship?
> >
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