[MD] Essentialism and the MOQ

Heather Perella spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 29 03:53:11 PST 2006




     [Marsha]
> Dynamic Quality is amoral is MU
> Static Quality is moral is reality


     Marsha ya pulled through for me, thanks.  You
made it simple, and plain-spoken.  This is also why
MoQ is not totally western philosophy and not totally
Zen.  Zen is dq in the above.  Western philosophy is
totally sq in the above.  Pirsig states quality is
both sq and dq.  This is how morals are significant,
for sq and dq are Quality.
     I've read that 99.9% of Zen practitioners in
Eastern Asia, according to a Zen master, are not
enlightened.  Thus, Zen says all is dq, but not all
are enlightened, so, these Zen practitioners would
have some sq, as well, but, Zen doesn't recognize sq
as 'something' to live with.  Zen would recognize sq
as 'something' to purge.  Yet, again, once sq is
purged, sq patterns in Zen would appear as dq or
emptiness.  Where the MoQ differs, is that the MoQ
accepts sq patterns.  Those 99.9% unenlightened Zen
practitioners are living 'something' in that
unenlightened world of those.  Enlightenment is still
a concept for them, one might say, since they are
unenlightened still.  But Zen sticks to the 'All is
dq', yet, not all Zen practitioners experience this
'All is dq'.  So, in actual practice, one might say,
Quality with sq and dq both being quality, takes
actual experience of Zen and Western reality puts them
together, in a way, that doesn't ignore the quality
and real experience that both offer.

    To highlight what I said:  Thus, one can practice
Zen and notice dq, yet, ignore sq; but in the MoQ this
Zen practice would also be aware of sq experience as
'something' of quality, too.  One can practice western
ways and notice sq, yet, ignore dq: but in the MoQ
this western practice would also be aware of dq
experience as 'something' of quality, too.   

    Marsha, what do you think of what I'm suggesting
above?  

woods,
SA


 
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