[MD] Online copy of ZMM and "Quality in Freshman Writing"

[ian glendinning]

Michael, glad you found the ZMM copy ...

I was merely guessing that Granger may have tried to see the Freshman
paper, since his Deweyian paper and book draw heavily on the Pirsig
passage from ZMM to which you are referring.

(People on this board are in contact with him and Bob, so it should
not be too hard to establish whether a copy of the Freshman paper
exists anywhere.)

Ian

On 11/29/06, Michael Hamilton <thethemichael at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ian,
>
> Thanks for prompting me to look through a couple more pages of the
> google search (was lacking even the slightest bit of persistence
> there... perhaps there's a moral already for my essay-writing). Found
> ZMM at http://www.design.caltech.edu/Misc/pirsig.html .
>
> I'm a bit confused about what you said about Granger... do you mean
> he's seen the paper? Or just that he's covering the same sort of
> ground and applying a Pirsigian perspective?
>
> Ta,
> Mike
>
> On 11/29/06, ian glendinning <psybertron at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Michael,
> >
> > Last time I checked there were several on-line copies of ZMM around,
> > scanned, PDF'd and Text.
> >
> > The Freshman paper I did look for a couple of years ago, but didn't
> > find it at the time. It's on my "must try harder" list if I ever get
> > the time, I'd be interested in seeing that too, if found. Of course a
> > great source of the same material is the Granger paper, he may indeed
> > know if a copy exists, if Ant or Bob don't already have copies of
> > course.
> >
> > (If no-one else puts up links I'll get you some this evening, failing
> > that I have saved off-line copies too.)
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > On 11/29/06, Michael Hamilton <thethemichael at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hello to the ol' MOQ faithful,
> > >
> > > Feeling dissatisfied and frustrated with my received style of essay
> > > writing, which is starting to feel clunky, square, and above all,
> > > excruciatingly dull for me to churn out, I decided to revisit the part
> > > of ZMM where Pirsig is teaching English. Turns out that the trusty
> > > http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon/Quality/PirsigZen/ link doesn't work
> > > any more, and my friend has disappeared the copy of the book I lent to
> > > him. Does anyone know if the online copy has been taken down?
> > >
> > > Also, does anyone know if it's possible to get hold of Pirsig's paper
> > > "Quality in Freshman Writing" that he wrote during that period
> > > described in ZMM? I bet it's good...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Mike
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