[MD] on the radio

[ian glendinning]

Ha, touche.

I did apologise for it being a brain-dump needing some weaving into
intelligible arguments, but David M set me up and I bit on the chance.

I also apologise if you see my attempts at self-effacing humour ( eg
"I would say that wouldn't I" with smiley) as contributing to that
narcicism.

Thanks for rising to the obligation DMB.
Please however don't dismiss the issues David M helped me expose, just
because that e-mail requires clarification. It was just a place-holder
for me to come back to the issues. Drivel in form, but not content.
Ask away.

Ian

On 11/29/06, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> ian glendinning said:
> ... Engineers - literally "ingenious people" - the archetypal problem
> solving pragmatists. I would say that, I am one of course ;-) and...
>
> dmb says:
> This is a bit ambiguous. Are you claiming to be an ingenious person, an
> engineer or an archetypal problem solving pragimatist? Or are you all three
> at once? In any case, you must be a heckuva guy.
>
> ian also said:
> What Pirsig brings to this is the emphasis on the levels and the dynamism,
> and effectively warns against reification - treating "objects" that inhabit
> your current level as necessarily the most significant realities to worry
> about when you're looking to understand cause and effect - the qualitative,
> zen, recursive interplay of "emergent arising".
>
> dmb says:
> And that's a heckuva sentence. Must have been engineered by a very ingenious
> person. What does it mean? I suspect it means nothing. ...As you can see,
> I'm still busting your chops on the "narcissictic drivel" thing. Complaining
> once would have been enough, but you're practically begging for it here. I
> felt obliged.
>
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