[MD] Pirsiq and Depression

[ian glendinning]

Mike, Rebecca, Gav (Mark mentioned) ...

I see that view of depression similar to Pirsig's stuckness, lack of gumption.

Roll with it is one thing, but it needs inputs too, things to disturb
the tempoarary balance, the "rut" maybe in the case of a depression.

Consequently I think Rebecca's view of balance is right ... very close
to Mark's discussions using physical dynamics like harmony and
coherence etc ... where we've made several references to apparently
static things really being just different kinds of stability and
meta-stability, static only temporarily or circumstantially

Essentially just a balance between other would-be dynamic things.

Ian

On 10/2/06, Rebecca Temmer <ratemmer.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Mike,
>
> It strikes me that depression is an indicator that something is out of
> balance in your life.  Whether it is physical, social, intellectual or
> spiritual ... or a combination of these things.
>
> The thing that I believe Pirsig missed out on in his books is the notion of
> balance.  He puts such an emphasis on DQ over SQ and rightfully so if you
> interpret them as being like Yin and Yang - all the ten thousand things are
> born of 'darkness and darkness within darkness'... however, you need them
> both.
>
> Pirsig puts that the commonality between the saviour and the degenerate is
> that they both embrace DQ over SQ; IMO, the difference is that the saviour
> brings a new balance to the SQ while the degenerate promotes further
> imbalance.
>
> !
> Rebecca
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