[MD] Intuitive Reasoning?

[ian glendinning]

Thanks Gav, that's why I asked for "in your own words"

I suspect you don't quite believe me yet, but I do entirely agree with
the fundamental "aontic" view ... there are fundamentally no objects
(or subjects), just interactions of unknowable things. Above that, all
is conceptualisation of experience.

In that fundamental sense a tree is no different to a human. We share
that level of experience with trees. But at some other level(s) you
say you would agree that "yes" we do have different kinds of
experience, and a kind of consciousness that we conceptualise
differently to that of a tree. (In fact, as you say we have some
conceptualisation capabilities that you'd suspect a tree doesn't have.
That very fact, plus the invention / emergence of self-consciousness,
is part of the reason, we suffer the "illusion" of being so different
that we are somehow distinct from mere objects as subjects.)

The problem I think, is to find the pragmatic language, or maybe
accept that we need one, that allows us to describe those differences
at the conceptual levels, without overlooking the fundamentals.

Regards
Ian
(PS - the point you didn't get was me trying to agree with both
yourself and Ham at the same time. Genetic determinism ... of the
species, naively yes, but not the individual tree. Now irrelevant to
the main point here.)