[MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience, and Religion (SQ) as Power

[David M]

Marsha

Thing is, god, etc could be entirely fictional,
yet be very important in human culture, history,
psychology, evolution, imagination, dreams. You see
fictions are of course real fictions. Fictions need to
explained and understood and are important.

You know, you have to know your stuff
if you want to answer the question:
why did we invent god?

God is like an absent parent who we can't
help imagining or talking to, or holding to
account, or questioning, that what is what the
history of the human race tells me. Some have
stopped, some have not,what other truth is there?

You know, does thought/thinking/intellect begin with god?

David M

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] New Model Army, Mystic(DQ) Experience,and Religion (SQ) as 
Power


> David M said to Marsha:
> Given what these ideas have meant to others I would not say 'silly', and 
> you
> remain in a minority I suspect for a very long time. In principle, yes,
> these words can dis-emerge like any other pattern.
>
> dmb butts in:
> DM, I want to look at your assertion that theism is not silly, "given what
> these ideas have meant to others". As I see it, "silly" is a casual and
> fuzzy way to say "implausible" or "unbelievable". And let's de-escalate 
> the
> debate by taking God out of it. To demonstrate the flaw in your logic 
> here,
> we'll use a hypothetical instead. Let's say that the truth at issue is 
> your
> father's fidelity in his marriage to your mother. Basically, he walked the
> line and remained true or he cheated on her. He did or he didn't. Now, it
> would probably mean a great deal to you, your hypothetical siblings and
> mother to believe that he has remained faithful. And it would be very
> painful to learn that he had a fling with that hot waitress down at the
> Waffle House. And those emotions are real and powerful and among the most
> meaningful elements of our lives - and they are completely irrelevant in
> deciding whether or not his fidelity is actually true. And in fact those
> powerful feeling can stand in the way of one's willingness to examine the
> situation honestly and can interfere with a philosophers ability to accept
> the harsh reality that dad was getting a little on the side. And, as
> difficult as it may be to face the fact, there was probably some amount of
> butter and syrup involved in it too.
>
> Long story short, comfortable beliefs and accurate beliefs are the same
> beliefs only if you're very, very  lucky.
>
> dmb
>
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