[MD] Flying Spaghetti Monsters

[david buchanan]

Ham Priday said;
The originator of this maxim was not Pirsig or the Zen masters but the Greek 
philosopher Protagoras [c.481-420 BC] who was numbered among the sophists by 
Plato. "Man is the measure of all things: of things which are, that they 
are, and of things which are not, that they are not" ...Wikipedia says: 
"Plato ascribes relativism to Protagoras, and uses his predecessor's 
teachings as a foil for his own commitment to objective and transcendent 
realities and values."

dmb says:
That's right. As you know from your careful reading, Ham, Pirsig traces the 
origins of our problems with SOM back to ancient Greece, back to this very 
move by Plato and sets out to rescue the cause of the sophists. They were 
not teaching relativism, despite Plato's slanderous claims to the contrary. 
They were teaching quality. Dynamic quality. But you already knew all that 
from your careful reading, huh?

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