[MD] humanity is the measure

[Micah]

Ian,

>Experience (DQ) is the measure of all things, surely.

Agreed, and man defines experience. Man is the measure of all things.

You keep saying "current" of "latest" or "so far" - is there another
reality?

Micah


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To me DMB,
That aphorism,
Man is the measure of all things.

Is just short-hand for "experience" is the measure of all things from
a situation where people didn't have a language for anything being
experienced by anything other than humans. We do.

Experience (DQ) is the measure of all things, surely.

Then we're just back into the debate of whether "man" is the (current)
pinnacle of MoQ experience - the top of the intellectual pyramid of
values.

Ian
On 10/10/06, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Micah said:
> Man is the measure of all things.
>
> Arlo replied:
> Therefore, Arlo is the measure of all things... or perhaps monkeys are.
>
> dmb says:
> No way, man. I'm the measure of all things. Its all about me. Well,  ...me
> and the monkeys. But seriously, Arlo. I'd like to hear what you think
about
> this central motto. I'm getting an overdose of critical theory and all
that
> biz in a class on methodologies and it occurs to me that this motto is
> basically an ancient form of constructivism. It goes along with that ZAMM
> assertion about how we've created the whole world by building analogy upon
> analogy. The evolutionary and collective nature of this process, not to
> mention the unusual status of the subjective self, saves it from being any
> kind of solipsism, of course. I think its just expressing the now very
> fashionable idea that we contruct our reality, except without all the
jargon
> or Lacanian nonsense. This is another way to get at that mystical idea,
thou
> art that. You know, its not that people are the measurers of things (SOM).
> Rather humanity creates things, creates the world, exists only in relation
> to those creations, and, in effect, is those creations. Man is the measure
> of all things, man is all things, all things are man, baby its you.
>
> But its all kinda fuzzy to me at this point. I'm getting by way of art
> criticism and gender studies and other complications. What do you think?
Its
> just a few weeks into the first class, but I can almost see it already.
> Almost. Do you think its possible? How would you go about it if you wanted
> to make a connection between mysticism and postmodernism in an academic
> context? I have hunch that it can be done and I'm kind of excited about
it.
> Well, okay. I'm ecstatic about it. Sue me.
>
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