[MD] Flying Spaghetti Monsters
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Wed Oct 11 17:17:45 PDT 2006
Quoting craigerb at comcast.net:
> Actually, Godel proved that logic was complete:
> Gödel's completeness theorem
> >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> Gödel's completeness theorem is an important theorem in mathematical logic which
> was first proved by Kurt Gödel in 1929. It states, in its most familiar form, that
> in first-order predicate calculus every logically valid formula is provable.
> It was ARITHMETIC that Godel's Theorem states is INcomplete. Logic is the method
> of determining the CONSEQUENCES that follow from one's
> assumptions/axioms/premisses. It has nothing to say about the provability of
> those assumptions/axioms/premisses.
Disagree. From "History of Mathematics" by Carl B. Boyer:
"Gödel showed that within a rigidly logical system such as Russell and Whitehead had
developed for arithmetic, propositions can be formulated that are undecidable or
undemonstrable within the axioms of the system. That is, within the system, there
exist certain clear-cut statements that can neither be proved or disproved.
Hence one cannot, using the usual methods, be certain that the axioms of arithmetic
will not lead to contradictions ... It appears to foredoom hope of mathematical
certitude through use of the obvious methods. Perhaps doomed also, as a result, is
the ideal of science - to devise a set of axioms from which all phenomena of the
external world can be deduced."
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